- Feb 4, 2016
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- Clark County, KY
Yes we are in agreement, that all of the breeds should maintain their strong points and that crossbreeding can compliment a breeding program.Well, the black-hided craze is due to the CAB program, which is a stroke of marketing genius, and has done wonders for Angus growers. No telling how many family farms and ranches it has saved. Literally. The small -time calf-operations make more money, and it even helped the dairy famers get more for their 1st time heifers' calves. I think it is awesome, that a man can sell 100,000 lbs of black steers and make $10k to $20k more money for them than his neighbor with 100,000 lbs of hereford or shorthorn or Charolais steers on the same pasture ,hay, feed etc. And the great thing is, that hereford or shorthorn rancher could simply put a homozygous Black angus bull on those cows, and he'd get that extra $10k-$20k for HIS 100.000 bs of steers as well. Only he'd get them quicker and with fewer head, than the pure Angus rancher would. And that Angus grower? He'd see the neighbor get there quicker with less head, and he could get a hereford, or shorthorn, or whatever bull, and he'd get there quicker with less head too. So, nothing wrong with the CAB or the marketing program by AAA. Only thing anyone can say about that is "Thank you". What the problem is, the OTHER breed associations trying to turn their breed black. They have turned most of the Continental breeds, into just Angus cross breds. diluting the genetic characteristics that used to maximize hybrid vigor. What they SHOULD have done, is bred to improve their breed's traits that make them a good cross on Angus. Market the reasons why a Simmental or Gelbiev or Hereford bull is the beat cross on Angus. Market the Limousine or
Shorthorn as THE best cows to breed your Angus bull too. So, I am actually agreeing with you. KY Hills, in this reply.
As for the appreciation of AAA and CAB, that depends on which side of the fence your standing on. I have said before and have no problem saying that CAB is a good product and I have recommended it to others before. It is the best alternative that I know of that is fairly widely available, if someone doesn't have their own beef. I also maintain that CAB is not as consistent quality of product as many would want to believe, and I definitely prefer our beef regardless of breed likely due in large part to how it's finished.
I readily admit that CAB is a successful marketing strategy, and a crock all at the same time. The words "Thank you" are words I will never say in regards to CAB.
From what I can tell the rise of CAB coincided with the perfect storm so to speak. That time period was during the frame race, in which you could go to a cattle show and all breeds looked like Chianina cattle bodies with different color hair according to the respective breed. Those resulting feeder steers finished out at huge sizes if they really did get properly finished. The replacement females from those large framed cattle lacked milk and fertility and took too supplementation to keep in any kind of shape. Soon the new trend and buzzword would start out of necessity "Moderate frame". There were likely enough rank and file Angus breeders that didn't jump into the cesspool of outside blood or wade too far out in it for their herds, that they could capitalize on the moderate frame bandwagon. The AAA marketing at the time was akin to scorched earth strategy. People with other breeds in large part didn't have the option of trying to continue with their herds the way things were. I had registered Charolais during that time. About the time I was building up a customer base, the rug was yanked out from under me, and I fell hard. I was AI breeding cows to Charolais bulls the equivalent of SAV America, at the time. Almost overnight, those calves were out of favor and worth docked stockyard prices. There was no market and no way to continue putting that money and effort that herd. There are many many stories like that. A lot of herds a lot longer running and higher quality than mine were dispersed or turned commercial and bred out.
The ultimate insult to injury is that a lot of the black hided and Angus herds that were springing up were lesser quality than the long running Hereford or Charolais etc, that they were replacing.
I have used Angus bulls for 20 some years, I can honestly say that the CAB premiums mean nothing to me, maybe they do to some larger breeders that can sell a pot load at a time to a buyer for that market. The only benefit that I can see is that if everything lines up and the Angus calves have enough frame to not get docked as fleshy or short then they will bring more than our Hereford calves per pound.