Diehard40":2giq5q1p said:...Of course the resembled a lot of black baldies i've seen in the past :lol:
Ryan":xu1jtns3 said:you could do a search and find more than you'd probably ever want to read... its been discussed, in depth, multiple times...
skcatlman":3qe9137x said:Just what the world needs another breed of cattle with blacks. IMO too many breeds have fallen into the black hide trend. They are falling into a trap that will cost their identity as a distinguished breed. It is not that i have a hate on for angus or blacks, just that breeds need to preserve their own identity. In my own breed the black thing is getting big, i think that color should be the one of the last things a breeder should look at. I know when i am buying breeding stock color is not a big selection factor, i would rather have a good quality animal a poor one of a paricular color. I saw what happened in the hereford breed with the perfection bull years ago, those same breeders will have a huge problem with anyone trying to use word hereford in association with blacks and calling them black herefords and starting a registry. When who ever is involved tries to promote black herefords i see legal problems.
cowboyup216":3tfifqsn said:Sorry mountainfamchar that you cant stand the thought of a black charolais but they are out there. I even saw an add in the local paper here in tennessee for some black hided chars registered heifers no less.
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/circlex/blacks.htm
http://www.laueranch.com/charolais.html
http://www.siredirect.com/blkcharolais/about.htm
Are we having fun yet?
MikeC":2wwexs6q said:I don't see anything wrong with having a black Charolais.
The advantage is for the owner to use him because of the dominance of the black gene, making a crop of calves more visually uniform.
The Black Char registration papers are not the same as the white herd. The paper will be designated as such and are a different color as the white cow's/bull's papers.
I don't see anything wrong with a black hereford either, just as long as the buyer is getting what he paid for.
If the genetic trends go for cattle as they have for hogs, there won't be any "Purebreds" going into the food chain anyway.
3MR":3cftn52r said:I dont see a problem with the trend to go black for the commercial cattleman, in fact I like it. I do agree the various breed organizations should attempt to retain and promote thier breeds unique benefits rather than try to copy a visual aspect of another.
MountainFarmChar":z4b3i0hs said:MikeC":z4b3i0hs said:I don't see anything wrong with having a black Charolais.
The advantage is for the owner to use him because of the dominance of the black gene, making a crop of calves more visually uniform.
The Black Char registration papers are not the same as the white herd. The paper will be designated as such and are a different color as the white cow's/bull's papers.
I don't see anything wrong with a black hereford either, just as long as the buyer is getting what he paid for.
If the genetic trends go for cattle as they have for hogs, there won't be any "Purebreds" going into the food chain anyway.
If I decided to go black, I would go buy Angus.
One of the things I like about Charolais is the white color!
Forgive my resistance to the black option, especially in Charolais.
nortexsook":2a5s29n2 said:>>that's what i like about beefmaster as a 'breed'. It's organized enough to be called a breed, but the specifics that they were selected for were beneficial to the cattlemen and the beef industry down to the consumer<<
Certainly true back when Lasater developed the breed, but the Beefmaster breeders now are a sorry lot. That has got to be one of the WORST breed associations ever. Pitiful!!
TxStateCowboy":xm27xd87 said:amen
that's what i like about beefmaster as a 'breed'. It's organized enough to be called a breed, but the specifics that they were selected for were beneficial to the cattlemen and the beef industry down to the consumer.
Those specifics boiled down to one simple idea: produce good cattle.
Hide colors... Just what industry are we in?
nortexsook":1qhbo04l said:>>that's what i like about beefmaster as a 'breed'. It's organized enough to be called a breed, but the specifics that they were selected for were beneficial to the cattlemen and the beef industry down to the consumer<<
Certainly true back when Lasater developed the breed, but the Beefmaster breeders now are a sorry lot. That has got to be one of the WORST breed associations ever. Pitiful!!