Char influenced cattle Vs. All black

[Simmental7]

At your local market how do smokes and yellows "buckskins" compare to the price of a black calf? are they very far off in your area or...?

 

[HOSS]

In my area really good smokies will be near equal to black hided calves. Average smokies will be .5 to .10 less. Yellow calves will take a .15 hit. That is under normal circumstances. I have seen REALLY nice smokes top the sale however.

 

[Lazy M]

Buyers love the smokes in my area. The yard has gotten to the point that they often wont bother to sort off the smokes from the black. White and red hides still take a pretty good hit.

 

[3waycross]

They don't do well here!

 

[Limomike]

I have seen smokes and yellows do as well if not better than blacks here.

 

[ken]

Yellows and smokes/silvers almost always do better than blacks at the sales here, although there isn't a huge price difference, more focus on quality than colour.

 

[sim.-ang.king]

Depends on which barn you go to here. The one about hour south likes white influence cattle just as much as black, but you go hour north and they like the black ones.

 

[aprille218]

Here (northern Minnesota) if it's not solid black or solid red it's docked.

 

[salebarn junkie]

They love yellow and hate smokes here (southwest mo)

 

[Taurus]

The smokies got docked at my local salebarn.

 

[Simmental7]

In my area South east kansas.... the char influenced cattle always bout near get sorted off from the blacks

 

[Red Bull Breeder]

i am with salebarn junkie, them yellar calves always hit a lick.

 

[CSM]

Smokes on average do just as well as blacks. Some days better, some days not.
CSM

 

[Isomade]

In all honesty it depends on the nose here. Smoke with pink nose is a nickel back. Smoke with black nose will be dead even or a hair better.

 

[BC]

In all honesty it depends on the nose here. Smoke with pink nose is a nickel back. Smoke with black nose will be dead even or a hair better.

The key is the black nose. A good yellow or cream colored calf will sell even with the black cattle here in East Texas. Some of the order buyers will carry orders for black and yellow calves only on the same order.

 

[Cabo]

Yellow and smokes normally take a .10 to .15 hit here for same quality calf.

 

[Lon]

Smoke colored calves here do tend to take a hit for the most part from what little i seen and what most people say. Go to the west 90 miles or so and the yellows really do sell right with any black calves and will sometimes outsell but there is alot more char bulls that way too. IN my area it is mostly all black bulls and some red ones as well.

 

[rla442]

In all honesty it depends on the nose here. Smoke with pink nose is a nickel back. Smoke with black nose will be dead even or a hair better.

Not to steal the post but what makes/influences the black nose? I have my first char cross claf and she has a black tongue and nose along with a cream or reddish colored coat. Not a solid black nose and tongue but a smokie gray with a blacker outline around the tongue and nose. The calf came out of a tiger striped heifer (dont know her make up) and a registered charolais bull who's sire was Bluegrass.
Does the black nose and tongue come from angus influence in the gene pool somewhere?

 

[Red Bull Breeder]

Get the black nose from angus x char.

 

[Isomade]

Get the black nose from angus x char.

Or Brangus X Char
Or baldy X Char (But when you get to the baldy it's a crap shoot, One year she will throw a black nose the next pink).