Brandonm2":qs9mzys7 said:
greenwillowherefords":qs9mzys7 said:
I appreciate your enthusiasm for Hereford influenced genetics, but perhaps you might want to rethink some of your statements. Your "black herefords" are better than any purebred Hereford or Angus. There are some very fine purebreds out there, and while weaning weight itself is not the only indicator of quality, the example you gave, while good, was certainly not better than many purebreds I've observed. I've personally owned a bull with a 740 pound weaning weight at 188 days of age.
We know that Black Herefords are a cross; but I think Hereford is making a mistake in not embracing parts of this concept. At LEAST 50% of the Hereford bought for crossbreeding are bought for crossbreeding with Angus and Angus cross cows. Why not register Baldies (when both parents are reg. Herfs and reg. Anguses)? Simmental is doing this with the SimAngus (which is also just another cross) and Simbrah (probably my least favorite of the registered Brahman cross breeds) and several other breed associations have adopted registered crosses. Turn the black baldie into it's own breed (administered by the AHA) and collect all the money off of new breeders and new registrations and then the AHA could cut the activation fee in half, and have new revenues for more field staff, more advertising, etc. What am I missing here?
Brandonm2
Could not disagree with you more. I am glad a herf that is red and white is a known product.
I am glad that NOT ONE Herf org in the world allows "built up cows". Baldies can be had from too many combinations - yeah Herf is one of them - but you simply cannot administer the cross between a black Simm and a Herf and register it the same as the cross between an Angus and a Herf. The possibilities are far too nimerous.
When you get a herf that is registered you are getting a Herf - NOT some 30/32 parts herf and something else in the wood pile.
I personally do not carewhat the other orgs do - I want my org to stay out of that game. I want my cattle to be easily identifiable.
I figure that when the Herf org starts allowing the original breed to be basta(r)dized for a colour fad then they will have lost more than they can gain.
You want black - cross them.
When you look in the field at black cows - what are they - Angus? Simm? or what have you. You no longer can tell.
When you look in a field and see the classic red with a white face what do you see? Not a doubt - it's a Herf.
Something to be said for standing by the breed. Colour is not a breed improvement - it is simply a change in colour.
Bez'