That is what Jobulls wrote this to me in PM.
"I don't really care if you would use our bulls. I have read a lot of your posts, and you talk about belted cows, and having dairy breeds in beef cows. Our buyers are all in the Western United States. Most of them range on BLM or Forest. The cows have to be able to travel and fend for themselves. Our cattle run in similar circumstances. We run on the BLM on the high desert from October through February. We then run on the Forest at 10,000 feet from June through October. Short, stubby cows do not do very well out here. The really large framed cows do not do very well either. Our BLM ground is over 20 miles by 15 miles, and is full of deep canyons, and the mountain ground is even more rough.
Most people out here run a Hereford and Angus base herd, because the Gelbveih, Simmental, and Charolais are not efficient and eat too much hay in the winter. No one runs cows with ears out here, because it is too cold for Brahman cattle. They then use the Gelbveih, Simmental, and Charolais breeds as terminal crosses, along with some Chianina (a few run Balancers, and Salers). If there is any dairy in cows, they will not breed back, because the cows are not sitting in pastures, and the extra milk takes too much energy.
Our family runs 200 head of purebred cows, and between 50 and 100 commercial cows (depending on the year). We have used the Hereford as our base on purebreds and we have used Chiangus and Simmentals as terminal crosses. We have experimented with keeping some purebred Simmentals and some power genetic Chiangus. The cows were too large, and did not range well. This seems to be the consensus with our buyers. I think that the studies show that you can raise approximately 22 of the terminal breeds I mentioned to 30 Herefords or 32 Angus (on the same ground).
I am not sure what you run your 30 head on, but it sounds like a little different set up. I know that you use primarily Black Angus, and that is a smart thing to do. I think I read that you run some Red Angus and some Hereford crosses. I still think that the Black Hereford/Black Angus F1 cross would be a good base cow for you. If you kept in this two way rotation, then you should get 67% of maximum heterosis. If you used this base and then added one of the terminal crosses above, then you could get up to 86% of maximum heterosis (however, you have to follow the proper percentages on the crossing). I have used this on our commercial cows as mentioned above with the Angus/Hereford base and the terminal breeds. It does add pounds without inefficient, large framed cows. It also keeps the docility of the Hereford.
All of our Black Hereford bulls are always reserved by 10 months, so we will be ok if you don't purchase from us, but please keep watching the breed. Most of our buyers are repeat, so we must be doing something right. Our bulls averaged 82 lbs. at birth and 650 lbs. at weaning, which is really good considering how hard the cows are working. On cows kept in pastures we usually get up in the 750+ lb. weaning weights. Our cows have to breed back or they are culled, and we will not see many of them for four months at a time."
Anyone want to challenge him on few things in the statement?