Yesterday a coworker, with whom I have frequently discussed the election, explained that he had noticed that most all rural counties usually vote conservative and asked "Why, what is it they want?" I gave him my understanding of the phenomenon, but thought it best if I asked you all. This gent, by the way, was not antagonistic, just curious. I'd guess his politics are slightly right of center. I'll pass on any answers you all care to give, without getting political of course.
What do rural people want?
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It's pretty simple. Let us worship who we want, we don't like to be told how the rest of the world does it. We don't need to see fagggots every time the TV is turned on. We would like to see other show the respect we do when things don't go our way. We want people to have basic manners. Life begins in the womb . our Constitution is the guide line and it is what should be followed. God gave us a brain people need to use it and government don't know what's best. If you don't work you don't deserve to eat.
Aaron
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Minimal government intervention in daily lives. Less regulation, less support, less taxation, less spending.
I don't know if they know what they want but it seems they think they know what they want. Surely, you have heard the same rhetoric I have:
1. Less government as long as they get what they want from it.
2. Lower Taxes
3. Less regulation
4. Repeal the welfare system
5. Shoot all EPA employees current and past behind the ear
6. Require everyone to worship as a Christian
7. Repeal Obamacare - BTW: Trump stepped back from that yesterday. Be interesting to see how the extreme right in the house and Senate respond to that.
That is a tiny bit facetious.
I am about as rural as you can get. IMO, "it is the economy stupid!"
1. Less government as long as they get what they want from it.
2. Lower Taxes
3. Less regulation
4. Repeal the welfare system
5. Shoot all EPA employees current and past behind the ear
6. Require everyone to worship as a Christian
7. Repeal Obamacare - BTW: Trump stepped back from that yesterday. Be interesting to see how the extreme right in the house and Senate respond to that.
That is a tiny bit facetious.
I am about as rural as you can get. IMO, "it is the economy stupid!"
Very noteworthy:
Darryl stated:
Let us worship who we want, we don't like to be told how the rest of the world does it.
I feel the same way, the difference is I get fatigued by the religious right always telling me what I should believe or how I should behave.
Personally, I don't give a cup full of cold water how anybody worships.
Darryl stated:
Let us worship who we want, we don't like to be told how the rest of the world does it.
I feel the same way, the difference is I get fatigued by the religious right always telling me what I should believe or how I should behave.
Personally, I don't give a cup full of cold water how anybody worships.
SteppedInIt
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If we are talking about the federal government:
1. Abide by the Constitution.
This alone would resolve most of our nations issues.
1. Abide by the Constitution.
This alone would resolve most of our nations issues.
Caustic Burno
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Margonme":4sfejpbt said:
I agree with disposal of 99% of the alphabet agencies
Stick strictly to the powers given by the constitution.
Freedom of religion which we haven't had since LBJ unless your a black church with the Johnson act
Follow the laws of the nation for everyone
Get out of my healthcare
Most bureaucrats need a buzzard sitting on them and out of our lives.
Disband the IRA go to a national sales tax no matter if your a drug dealer or a millionaire spend a dollar it gets taxed.
I don't get farm subsidies - I'm sure I'm not big enough - but I have a related question.
I understand "rural" wants less spending and less government intervention, but how do you see farm subsidies? A great deal of taxpayer money go into subsidizing agriculture. I have neighbors who are paid by the government to not plant to the great frustration of many in the area - seeing their tax dollars go into inactivity - perhaps much like rural America sees happening in welfare programs?
I am not being sarcastic at all. This is still tax and spend isn't it?
I understand "rural" wants less spending and less government intervention, but how do you see farm subsidies? A great deal of taxpayer money go into subsidizing agriculture. I have neighbors who are paid by the government to not plant to the great frustration of many in the area - seeing their tax dollars go into inactivity - perhaps much like rural America sees happening in welfare programs?
I am not being sarcastic at all. This is still tax and spend isn't it?
SteppedInIt
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Current power structure: Fed -> State -> Local -> People
I would like to see: People -> Local -> State -> Federal
I would like to see: People -> Local -> State -> Federal
True Grit Farms
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God, Guns, and Guts here, or simply follow the 10 commandments and the constitution. I can take care of my family and I don't need no stinking government help. What I do expect my government to do is keep us safe from foreign threats and enforce and uphold the laws.
Also - as an ordained minister in a very conservative denomination, I have never found any evidence limiting my freedom of religion. I have found no evidence in my own practice or the practice of my peers limiting our worship experience. No one has ever told me how or why or when to practice my faith. I can't help but wonder why I've had such a different experience. Geographical? Contextual? Very interesting.....
Caustic Burno
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Farm subsidies are welfare just depends on who is receiving the checkangus9259":3uilp5kb said:
just another bought vote by a corrupt system.
JMJ Farms
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1) I don't want to be forced to work harder so I can pay more taxes to support some able bodied person who doesn't want to work because they know the government will take my money and give it to them so they can eat better than I do. I.e. Socialism.
2) I don't care who you want to worship. Just don't tell me who I can and can't worship. I won't try to force my opinions on you. I only ask the same.
3) We don't need illegal immigrants to carry the manual workload of the United States. We have plenty of citizens here that are able to work. We only need to let their stomachs get empty. The rest will take care of itself.
4) Trade agreements are for the benefit of a few. They need to be repealed and reconstructed to benefit the producers as a whole.
5) Laws mean nothing if the SCOTUS can interpret and twist them as they see fit. Abortion, same sex "unions" (I refuse to call this marriage), common core education, and other issues are, again, desires of special interest groups for the benefit of a few, not the majority.
6) The government needs to get out of the private healthcare business.
The short answer is that I want to get up and go to work daily. I want to pay my share for what I receive and for what I use. I want to be free to believe what I want to believe. I don't want to be penalized for working harder than most other folks. I shouldn't have to pay any more taxes than someone else simply because I choose to work 12-16 hours a day instead of 8.
Here's a solution.
1) Implement a flat sales tax
2) Figure the budget. Divide that number by the number of able bodied citizens. Let everyone pay the same amount. That's fair.
2) I don't care who you want to worship. Just don't tell me who I can and can't worship. I won't try to force my opinions on you. I only ask the same.
3) We don't need illegal immigrants to carry the manual workload of the United States. We have plenty of citizens here that are able to work. We only need to let their stomachs get empty. The rest will take care of itself.
4) Trade agreements are for the benefit of a few. They need to be repealed and reconstructed to benefit the producers as a whole.
5) Laws mean nothing if the SCOTUS can interpret and twist them as they see fit. Abortion, same sex "unions" (I refuse to call this marriage), common core education, and other issues are, again, desires of special interest groups for the benefit of a few, not the majority.
6) The government needs to get out of the private healthcare business.
The short answer is that I want to get up and go to work daily. I want to pay my share for what I receive and for what I use. I want to be free to believe what I want to believe. I don't want to be penalized for working harder than most other folks. I shouldn't have to pay any more taxes than someone else simply because I choose to work 12-16 hours a day instead of 8.
Here's a solution.
1) Implement a flat sales tax
2) Figure the budget. Divide that number by the number of able bodied citizens. Let everyone pay the same amount. That's fair.
True Grit Farms
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angus9259":y62jm7vr said:
This is a sore subject. But to me any farmer that takes a government payout has no right to bitch about welfare, foodstamps, free phones, or public housing. If you can't make it without subsidies get another job.
Caustic Burno
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You don't remember the Houston mayor wanting to approve of the sermons.angus9259":26y40jb3 said:
Secondly if you promote one party over the other you can loose you tax exempt status per the Johnson act unless it's for the right party
The axiom that comes out regardless of persuasion is this:
Human beings don't respond well to force, being dictated to or having what they perceive to be their rights trampled on.
As Darryl does not want homosexuality introduced into his environment; by the same token homosexuals don't want their lifestyle discriminated against. Both sides seem to want to antagonize the other. I don't have a shred of interest in engaging in homosexual activity. I am not wired for that lifestyle but that some people are does not concern me in the slightest way. I would stop on the side of the road and help a gay man as easily as I would some hairy azz redneck.
Human beings don't respond well to force, being dictated to or having what they perceive to be their rights trampled on.
As Darryl does not want homosexuality introduced into his environment; by the same token homosexuals don't want their lifestyle discriminated against. Both sides seem to want to antagonize the other. I don't have a shred of interest in engaging in homosexual activity. I am not wired for that lifestyle but that some people are does not concern me in the slightest way. I would stop on the side of the road and help a gay man as easily as I would some hairy azz redneck.
JMJ Farms
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angus9259":2u5lztto said:
Of which the majority of dollars are designated to welfare programs. Welfare has long been disguised by being hidden in the farm bill. I will step out a little farther and say that I imagine that the largest percentage of welfare dollars are stolen by rich people in high places before it reaches the intended recipient, but this is strictly my suspicion bc I have no proof.
JMJ Farms
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Margonme":cwo14prt said:
Ron, you need to be careful. Make sure that hairy azz redneck is not gay or you could find yourself in (or on) a pickle :lol2: :hide:
Caustic Burno
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I thought it interesting in the PC world he the way he referred to the gay and seeming disparaging to the deplorable
