MillIronQH
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"Good judgement comes from experience. Unfortunately to much of that experience comes from bad judgement." Don't know who said it but it's true.Z
\fit2btied":po1h0smu said:I try not to put myself in situations with fatalistic possibilities if I have little or no control, especially when I know better.
houstoncutter":9gzah7pe said:...dont reward stupid
eric":ba4dghzq said:fit2btied":ba4dghzq said:eric":ba4dghzq said:These guys were'nt just 2 run-of-the-mill weekend warrior type guys out to get their jollies on. The man whose body has been recovered was a very experienced climber, who has climbed mts on 3 different continents and has cimbed Mt. McKinnley, the highest point in America, over 2 dozen times over the years...
Exactly! So why was this climb so important?
badaxemoo":l3mfeud6 said:\fit2btied":l3mfeud6 said:I try not to put myself in situations with fatalistic possibilities if I have little or no control, especially when I know better.
Most of us put ourselves in those situations fairly frequently. We hurtle down the highways at 70+ mph in cans on wheels made of glass and steel - two substances not particularly safe for human flesh should an impact occur...
I think the only lesson to be learned from this accident is that mountain climbing is arduous and dangerous. Most climbers probably wouldn't do it if it wasn't.
Bama":1osrz50s said:People looking at challenges and then overtaking them is what made us what we are today. Be it mountain climbing or whatever cranks ones tractor. If no one had ventured into the wild and unknown west years ago we would still be living on the east coast. After all that whole west thing was a risky adventure. Our natural craving for the unknowns and ability to meet our challenges head on is what keeps us going forward. Climbing mountains in ice ain't my cup of tea, but for some, things I do ain't on top of their list either. The space program was a challenge that many inventions came out of. It got people thinking of how to overcome a challenge. Many of these inventions and things learned from the research are saving lives today. This nation as a whole has benefited many times over from folks taking adventurous challenges. As far as the folks looking for these guys. Thank God we have people like this. As one beinging on a rescue squad myself, ain't no pay better than placing a healthy lost 3 year old girl in the arms of a concerned mother. We do it for reasons other than money. I'm sure most of those were volunteers also.
dun":1cpupuxh said:Mahoney Pursley Ranch":1cpupuxh said:My family would be proud that I tried to save a life just as thay are proud every time my wife or myself responds to a fire or medical call. How would YOU feel if no one made an attempt to save your life or your brides or childs if it was deemed you did something stupid? NUFF SAID
It would probaly help the gene pool significantly
dun
Bama":1r0eylwv said:The last rescue mission I was on involved a older man lost in the forest near me. We were expecting to find him dead. When I came out well after dark there would be hot coffee and enough food to feed an army. This food was brougt up there by the community. This whole ordeal lasted 4 days. We found the guy alive and well. After we encountered many snakes and wild hogs at night. I didn't recieve a dime in pay nor did any of the other folks with me. I carried out a team with dogs, there were about a dozen of them. None of them got paid either. My 13 year old son was with me. He had to go to school the next morning. We came in one night about 10:00 with a team. When I arrived at the command post a new team of dogs were there. The incident commander ask if I could carry them out to look in a spot where some other dogs had a hit earlier in the day. It was about 2 miles away cross country. I looked at my son, he said "lets go". Knowing all the time he would have a rough time at school the next morning. We got back about 2 am that morning. I was back out there at 6 am and was fixin to carry another group out when it came over the radio he had been found. They said we found Mr ***** long pause then they realized didn't everone know and said "he's alive". Just being there and seeing the look on the families face was far more than any money could have been. So yes we are well paid, but not in money. Even when its a just body we recover its a closure to the family. If people can't live out their dreams and do the things they enjoy, whats the use in dreaming. Yes accidents happen but by far I go on more car wrecks and pull mangled bodys from the wreckage. Yes, the troopers and cops get paid what should we do - prevent people from driving cars, after all it cost the taxpayers when they wreck. Those on the mountain wernt doing something stupid. They were doing something they enjoyed. Things beyond their control got them into a jamb. I'm sure those looking for them was not thinking how much is this gonna cost the taxpayers. Drunk drivers cost the taxpayers far more than adventure seekers. If you really want to get technical look at what your paying on your own car insurance. A lot of it is to cover the accidents of other drunk drivers.
I'll get off my soapbox now.
Alice":27hxc68o said:Again, who pays for the jets to fly over the NASCAR races? Any answers...or is it the gubment...us taxpayers? C'mon, guys...and there's all this whining about taxpayers paying for rescue missions? Shamful!
Alice