Hmmm . . . vs. $4.059 here. Maybe JJ should visit the Northwest.tsmaxx47":2ou03l45 said:87 octane is $3.19; it's been dropping ever since jesse jackson was here..........
Running Arrow Bill":38rgpgga said:Since April, highway diesel has been $4.04 gallon. Red farm diesel we bought for tractors was $3.43 a gallon and we also bought a storage tank with 12V pump for here.
87 octane gas finally "came down"...yeah...to $3.59 a gal last month.
Strange, since Texas has major refineries on the Gulf Coast! Politics, investers, market players...
No one is forcing you to buy it. Subsidize ethanol or subsidize corn either way the govt is involved whether i like or not. Btw i disagree about it ruining your stuff.highgrit":1jijliun said:We need to quit subsidizing people that make ethanol. It should be against the law to sell ethanol, all it does is ruin your stuff.
If ethanol is not ruining stuff than what else is diffrent that is.iowa hawkeyes":828lc548 said:No one is forcing you to buy it. Subsidize ethanol or subsidize corn either way the govt is involved whether i like or not. Btw i disagree about it ruining your stuff.highgrit":828lc548 said:We need to quit subsidizing people that make ethanol. It should be against the law to sell ethanol, all it does is ruin your stuff.
Douglas":2qwu6g8c said:I did some research a year or so ago on the price of diesel. Was wondering why diesel was cheaper than gas years ago and now cost more. What I found was that it is primarily due to our refining set up. It is my understanding that a refinery when built is designed in two configurations. In one configuration about 30% of total production is diesel. In the other much less. Since he have not built any new refineries lately the supply of diesel has not change much over the years, while the demand has increases. This increase demand is primarily from Europe where diesels cars are popular. Here, I think diesels car have difficulty meeting pollution regulations. So now instead of having an oversupply of diesel in the US, we export that diesel and that has caused the cost to be more in line with production costs. The ships that carry diesel to Europe return with their excess gas as they have the opposite situation, not enough diesels and too much gas. And of course more recently higher sulfur standards and higher taxes on diesel push the price up.
lynnmcmahan":3ja04gso said:Douglas":3ja04gso said:I did some research a year or so ago on the price of diesel. Was wondering why diesel was cheaper than gas years ago and now cost more. What I found was that it is primarily due to our refining set up. It is my understanding that a refinery when built is designed in two configurations. In one configuration about 30% of total production is diesel. In the other much less. Since he have not built any new refineries lately the supply of diesel has not change much over the years, while the demand has increases. This increase demand is primarily from Europe where diesels cars are popular. Here, I think diesels car have difficulty meeting pollution regulations. So now instead of having an oversupply of diesel in the US, we export that diesel and that has caused the cost to be more in line with production costs. The ships that carry diesel to Europe return with their excess gas as they have the opposite situation, not enough diesels and too much gas. And of course more recently higher sulfur standards and higher taxes on diesel push the price up.
Nephew worked for a refinery in Baton Rouge area. His answer was " extra process to remove sulphur". The newer model diesels require a "urea" additive that cost ? , but it cost.