Bright Raven said:
You've been in the government teat so long you really are warped.
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You've been in the government teat so long you really are warped.
HDRider
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TennesseeTuxedo said:
How is he wrong?
Those are state owned, run by the state and funded by our society.
Sure sounds like socialism to me.
Any extreme view or application of any ism is fanatical.
Take what is good of any practice of ism.
The world is not black and white. We are discovering new shades of gray every day
ga.prime
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You know what I don't like? Toll roads.
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ga.prime said:
Amen. Roads benefit everyone whether or not they drive on them. Tax everyone, make the road free to everyone.
HDRider
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ga.prime said:
In a short-sighted attempt to fill holes in their budgets, some states have been selling the control over their toll roads to private foreign investors. The most famous case is the Indiana Toll road 75-year lease that started back in 2006. During the first five years of control, the company in charge more than doubled the toll for five-axel trucks from $14 to $32. That same company has been buying up control of U.S. toll roads since 1999 and now controls 6 major U.S. roadways.
Spanish company Cintra Concesiones de Infraestructuras de Transporte (or Cintra) just signed a deal with the state of Texas worth $1.38 billion where it will operate two future portions of the North Tarrant Express in Dallas/Fort Worth.
ga.prime
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Originally, public roads were paid for by highway use taxes placed on gas and diesel.
HDRider
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ga.prime said:
Then
Private turnpike companies built thousands of miles of toll roads across the states during the 18th and 19th centuries. The first private turnpike connected Philadelphia and Lancaster in 1794, and by 1800, 69 turnpike companies had been chartered in New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, Pennsylvania, and Maryland. All in all, more than 2,000 companies built private toll roads in America in the 18th and 19th centuries.
https://www.downsizinggovernment.org/transportation/federal-highway-policies
Now
The Federal Highway Administration (FHWA) within the Department of Transportation will spend $43 billion in 2017, mainly on aid to state and local governments. FHWA activities are funded by a combination of federal fuel taxes and general federal revenues.
ga.prime
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What's worse than toll roads are the toll bridges and tunnels connecting NY and NJ and Long Island.
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
I don't consider the fellas who crafted our nation to be socialists.
I don't consider the fellas who crafted our nation to be socialists.
HDRider
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TennesseeTuxedo said:
I would not call the socialist either. They were brilliant men, that had brilliant ideas, and the will to enact them. They did work for individual liberty and social good.
Franklin founded many civic organizations, a Library, Philadelphia's first fire department and the University of Pennsylvania.
Right HDR, I look at it like one big homeowner's association. EVERYBODY needs to do their part and pay in.
HDRider
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TennesseeTuxedo said:
I don't think anyone is arguing that.
People being people, some look to take advantage of any situation.
callmefence
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ga.prime said:
I can live with toll roads, but I draw the line at a licence to fish.
snoopdog
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I just want cows, I like the way they look at me when I'm giving them hay, or cubes. I can do without those aggressive bite$ tho
greybeard
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We are your govt, we're here to help you...
https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/eye-on-government/ny-man-arrested-for-cutting-wires-to-red-light-cameras-exposing-revenue-scheme-TmvQ7-MX9U-VXG26D11tdg/
It's all about the $$ and who gets it..ALWAYS.
https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/eye-on-government/ny-man-arrested-for-cutting-wires-to-red-light-cameras-exposing-revenue-scheme-TmvQ7-MX9U-VXG26D11tdg/
It's all about the $$ and who gets it..ALWAYS.
i am not disagreeing with about the money part, but with the link posted- i've sat at a green light and people that had a red light were still going thru the intersection and if you pull into the intersection some, they look at you like your crazy.greybeard said:
hurleyjd
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I have lived the American dream. But at my age and trying the maintain it has became a nightmare. To much work and not enough body. Need to drag one of the acorn eaters carcass to the woods today. Might have one more that will not make it. Why does it effect some cows and not the others.
TexasBred
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hurleyjd said:
Ever noticed how some cows eat much faster than others stay and eat longer than others? Very likely the case.
backhoeboogie
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Bright Raven said:
I use public Roads.
I have paid SS for 45 years now. My employer has matched my contributions. Maybe I will live long enough to get a bit of that back.
Obama destroyed my health care plan. The company was self insured and we had a plan. Obama took it. Now it will indeed be Medicare, if I live that long.
