rocket2222":27j0p26x said:I like the bull in picture 10 a lot better than the one you all seem to like, looks a little deeper to me, doesn't have the mass of the other bull, but I like his tpoline, hip and rear let structure better and the muscle shape better too in the rear end.
Great pics Lorenzo, thanks.
HerefordSire":1zvyn6i1 said:RD-Sam":1zvyn6i1 said:57.5 inches, that is under 7 frame, correct?
I think you need the age at measurement then plug in the formula below.
Frame Score = -11.548 + .04878 (Height) - 0.0289 (Days of Age) + 0.00001947 (Days of Age)2 + 0.0000334 (Height) (Days of Age)
http://www.ag.ndsu.edu/pubs/ansci/beef/as1091w.htm
Frame Score = -11.548 + .4878 (Height) - 0.0289 (Days of Age) + 0.00001947 (Days of Age)2 + 0.0000334 (Height) (Days of Age)
RD-Sam":23p9wymr said:If you use the 34 month on the chart it only makes him about a 5.5 frame. He isn't as big in frame as you thought, he is a massive bull though.
RD-Sam":2i9layfm said:If he was 57.5 at 34 months that would make him about 5.5 frame. I would assume he might grow a tad more with age, so at most, he is about 5.5 frame, at least that is how I see it.
Come on, Knersie, I KNOW you have an opinion! And I, for one, would like to know what you and others think!
George
KNERSIE":k9i6ftdx said:If I didn't know he was an Online I might have overlooked it because he certainly has lots to offer for any breeding program, but Online was too consistant in breeding that fault for me to risk bringing something into my herd that I haven't got now.
;-)Hereford76":6ruuiir7 said:KNERSIE":6ruuiir7 said:If I didn't know he was an Online I might have overlooked it because he certainly has lots to offer for any breeding program, but Online was too consistant in breeding that fault for me to risk bringing something into my herd that I haven't got now.
you may also be overlooking who knows what... and how the heck do you say he would have lots to offer any breeding program. maybe he was born prolapse and his mothers teats drag the ground and maybe every cow in his pedigree had cancer - being an online could be the least of his problems. someone on here is already to ai to the bull by seeing a picture of a show bull??? I just don't get it
I thought the hereford bulls in those pictures looked good too... but hasn't anyone ever gone to a show before. They don't look any different from any other show animals.
KNERSIE":2nzibwho said:Lorenzo, who was the champion?
HerefordSire":18djcriw said:Just kidding Lorenzo. How is the baby doing?
rocket2222":1n19pa22 said:So it turns out alot of those great grass genetics are right in your back yard, all you have to do is call your local semen supplier and get your order in. ;-)
RD-Sam":2psp8912 said:That may be true, but what matters is what the offspring look like from the US and Canadian breedings. We do have some good sires here, but you don't find that many that look like the bull most like in this thread. His dams side was from there, I would like to see the pedigree for sure. I think Online semen is $1000 per straw now, not everyone can run out and try and duplicate that. :cowboy:
rocket2222":1p49fbfo said:Theres no easy way out, no magical genetics, you get what you want by selecting for it by what works in your environment.
Australian":3oev6cwd said:Yo have beautiful children Lorenzo. Your own children and grandchildren are precious.