Taurus, not sure where you get your info on Chianina. Although the ACA has totally tried changed the breed I would say because of the great marketing that the Black Angus people have done on America. We raised Chianina in the 70's and had some of the 1st full bloods in the USA. Raised many pure bread's, at that time 15/16 was considered pure bread. I have read this thread over and I find that you attribute the udder problems to the Chianina side of the cross, what was the other breed or breeds in the cross. Chianina cattle milk and calve more like a horse, smaller bags richer milk so calf's nurse more often. Calving similar to horse, long and skinny then in about two weeks start to fill out. We could never figure out why the cattle industry never found the chianina cattle a great tool. With the higher weaning weights, growing out faster leaner, why does this not add up. My father was also an auctioneer and the buyer's just didn't get it. My biggest question is when did people start eating color? I could go on and on about this, as for temperament, birth weights(already covered) this was an asset to any breed. As for temperment the Chinina were use as a beast of burden in Italy, they were the most docile cattle we've ever raised, but much had to do with how they are raised we had gotten some cattle from Texas that where run with dogs & horses, they didn't bluff especially with a calf, but for the most part very quite cattle. As ch496 said "Did I say "never" no I was speaking in general terms". Love to talk about these cattle anytime. 6of7w