Ebola in the USA

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As a comparison, 1.2 million abortions are performed each year in the US, one every 26 seconds. No one freaks out about that though. But women have that right
 
Hook":wkoclz3a said:
I'm done debating this. I've made all the pertinent points for my opinion and it's only degrading down to insults. I won't change anyone's mind anymore than they will change mine.
You're not changing anyone's mind because you are dead wrong !!!!
 
A Spanish nurse in Madrid Spain now has it--the first confirmed case contracted outside Africa, and she is suspected of getting in while working in a modern high tech hospital with all the quarantine and "clean room" protocols in place.

MADRID (AP) — In the first known transmission of the outbreak of Ebola outside West Africa, a Spanish nurse who treated a missionary for the disease at a Madrid hospital has tested positive for the virus, Spain's health minister said Monday.

The female nurse was part of the medical team that cared for a 69-year-old Spanish priest who died Sept. 25 in a Madrid hospital designated for treating Ebola patients after he was flown home from Sierra Leone, where he served as the medical director of a hospital there treating infected Ebola patients, Health Minister Ana Mato said.

The nurse is believed to have contracted the virus from that priest, though she was also a member of the team that treated another Spanish priest who died earlier from Ebola.

More than 370 health workers in West Africa have become infected in the outbreak, and more than half of those have died. Doctors and nurses there have worked under difficult conditions, treating patients in overflowing wards, sometimes without proper protection. But even under ideal conditions, experts warn that caring for Ebola patients always involves a risk.

WHO estimates the latest Ebola outbreak has killed more than 3,400 people.

The World Health Organization on Monday night confirmed there has not been a transmission outside West Africa in the current outbreak prior to the Spanish nurse.

WHO spokeswoman Fadela Chaib told The Associated Press that the only confirmed cases were in West Africa and the United States, with no known transmission outside West Africa. The organization is awaiting official notification of the case from Spanish authorities, she added.

The Spanish nurse went on vacation the day after the priest died but checked in Sunday to a public hospital in the working class Madrid suburb of Alcorcon with a fever and was placed in isolation. Mato said the infection was confirmed by two tests.

Antonio Alemany, Madrid's director of primary health care, told reporters that the woman had no symptoms besides the fever and that authorities were drawing up a list of people the nurse had contact with so they can be monitored.

He did not say where the married woman with no children spent her vacation, nor did he specify whether health authorities are checking people who she came into contact with where she went for vacation.

She is the only person quarantined in Spain but her husband and health workers who cared for her during her admission to the hospital Sunday are being monitored. Authorities gave no details on how they were being monitored.

The nurse cared for Manuel Garcia Viejo, who was in charge of the San Juan del Dios hospital in Lunsar, Sierra Leone. In August, she also assisted in the treatment of 75-year-old Spanish priest Miguel Pajares, also flown back to Spain from Liberia. He died after being treated with the experimental Ebola medicine ZMapp but authorities said Garcia Viejo was not given the treatment because worldwide supplies ran out.

Just after midnight Tuesday, the nurse was transferred from the hospital in Alcorcon for treatment at Madrid's Carlos III hospital, where the two priests were cared for until they died. She was taken there in a convoy of ambulances accompanied by a police escort.

Spanish authorities said they were investigating how the nurse became infected at a hospital with modern health care facilities and special equipment for handling cases of deadly viruses. The virus that causes Ebola (supposedly) spreads only through direct contact with the bodily fluids of an infected person showing symptoms.

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I just find this is a great scare to take attention away from other issues that might otherwise make news.. Seeing as I don't watch the news I can't say what they are...
it's just more "be very scared of this". I figure if my number is up, then it's up. I'm certainly not going to worry myself to death about all the 'what ifs'.. I got better stuff to take care of
 
yeah but who wants to get sick and die..i either go healthy of old age or in a serious instantaneous accident..preferably of my own making...


think new world order here..insert bash comments below
 
Nesikep":2wfth0oq said:
I just find this is a great scare to take attention away from other issues that might otherwise make news.. Seeing as I don't watch the news I can't say what they are...
it's just more "be very scared of this". I figure if my number is up, then it's up. I'm certainly not going to worry myself to death about all the 'what ifs'.. I got better stuff to take care of
Bet you do stop at red lights though . :nod:
 
"Everyone wants to go to heaven, but no one wants to go TODAY"

(been some days tho, I was sure ready for the Lord to "call me home right NOW--please!")
 
The doctor on Fox said that the Ebola virus can live for hours on metal. That seems pretty easy to catch. That is how other viruses are caught. Colds, etc...... Touch the metal, then rub your nose, wipe your eye, or rub the corner of your mouth. That is such an automatic response to do without thinking about it.

People think if they carry hand sanitizers with them, it will kill germs. It is reported now that they do very little to help.
 
Numbers don't make sense with the story.

If the disease is as contagious as they say, 3400 deaths with ~ 50% death rate puts it at ~ 6800 people infected. In poverty stricken area that is so crowded and unhygienic with thousands and millions of people.... it's really not that high of a death rate- this has been going on for several months. 3k people died on 9/11. Not trying to sound uncaring, far from it, but the numbers aren't making sense.

If 370 health care workers have been infected, then that is roughly 5% of ALL infected people. Not very good odds for a health care worker. This seems consistent with a very infectious disease, and not one that is only infecting 1 to 2 people as per infected person as I read somewhere- maybe even here.

Something isn't right. Either more people have died and it is being unreported, or it's not as infectious as they say. But saying that, they have a lot of health care worker infections to explain.

If 5% of all aid workers are being infected, how many death warrants did we sign by sending 2k soldiers to assist? 100 to be infected and ~ 50 to die? This doesn't make any sense to me.

Lock the area down, express approve potential FDA studies and production of products if they appear beneficial and this is a true emergency, and be done with it. With a mortality of better than 50%, what more could you need to fast forward the bureaucracy? And what more information could you need to warrant stopping any and all incoming traffic with a designated isolation period from hot spot locations?

Nothing here makes sense or passes the smell test. Something stinks and I think it's because someone needs a distraction from the ciaos of the world in general because of failed leadership by the free world. Whether it has been created through sensationalism, or just not stomped out when it should have been, or both I have yet to decide.

There was a great article on the response to Ebola in the 70's vs the very delayed response this time. Wish I could find it again. There is a stark difference in how they were handled. One stopped the disease and required very little overall effort. The other is getting tons of headlines.

Wonder how that ISIS thing is going in the Arab Spring vacuum? Wonder how many non-islamic converts in the world lost their heads today?
 
I you click the box on the zoonotic niche it will highlight the areas that are susceptible to zoonotic transmission (If I interpreted it correctly) the dots represent the ebola outbreaks that are documented.

The sad part about this is that in this 3rd world country there are probably 1000s of cases that are undocumented in the uncivilized parts.

I'm not arguing your point but this map is used on several sites as the outbreak map. I will see if I can find another one.
 

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