dun":2qw6jmat said:Gelbviehs are originally solid red (really kind of yellow). That's what their name means, "Yellow Cow". The only way to get a white face on them would be using either a Hereford or a Simmenthal. We have a red whiteface Gelbvieh bull calf now. Momma is Gelbvieh daddy is R294 (Hereford)
The Simmental Association would have a bone to pick with you. As there are many registered PB Black Simmentals.WalnutCrest":1odck7on said:To get something that might be considered by some to be a black "simmental" ... you're talking a F3 or F4, at least.
:roll:WalnutCrest":vw3w14zr said:you're really talking about an F3 or F4, at least.
Would sure like to see a pic of that calfdun":1h2pna2f said:Gelbviehs are originally solid red (really kind of yellow). That's what their name means, "Yellow Cow". The only way to get a white face on them would be using either a Hereford or a Simmenthal. We have a red whiteface Gelbvieh bull calf now. Momma is Gelbvieh daddy is R294 (Hereford)
If you don't mind saying, where in KS are the gelbfords?cow pollinater":25zob3yi said:Most of the continental breeds came here as semen first and fullblood live cattle second. They got crossed with whatever people had and bred up from there. It is not all that uncommon for purebreds to have 4-5% hereford in there and black came from Angus. I saw a limousin heifer that was a purebred with a white face that I'd have bought in a heartbeat if they'd have sold her to me but she was "Not for sale!" She came from matings of hereford and limousin with very little angus in there and it was enough that the white face stuck.
There is one place up in Kansas making gelbfords and one of these days I'm going on a field trip to see them.
strihafarms":1hz4wy29 said:Couldn't you breed a homozygous black Gelbvieh bull to a purebred Hereford cow and get f1 bwf cattle?
strihafarms":2r2w1rrv said:That's what I thought but someone made it sound like you couldn't
Black and Good":99q67f33 said:
Me tooTrue Grit Farms":7jbbmnjl said:I'm very surprised the Hereford bull didn't stamp everyone with a white face.
Always surprises me too. But it happens more often than you or I imagined.True Grit Farms":1838erh6 said: