RustyTub
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When buying registered cattle from an individual, do you pay in full when papers are not delivered with cattle or pay portion with balance paid upon papers delivery?
If you are paying a premium for registered cattle, then you shouldn't be paying anything at all until you have both cattle and papers in hand.When buying registered cattle from an individual, do you pay in full when papers are not delivered with cattle or pay portion with balance paid upon papers delivery?
Same here.I think every bull i have bought the seller transfered the papers into my name and i recieved them a week or two later. I doubt the seller would chance transferring it into the buyers name before he got paid.
Here its actually illegal to have a signed open title on a vehicle. I may be wrong but I think @simme transferred the papers on my bull to me at no cost to him but it would have cost me if i had sent the papers in myself. Someone correct me if im wrong. Every bull i have bought for the last 25 years the breeder registered the papers in my name.I got my papers on those 7 Brangus bulls I bought at the sale in February, that day when I paid for them. Everything thing was needed from the seller already filled out, just had to add the new buyers' name and send them in. Same with those 7 Red Charolais heifers I bought last month. I have old hundreds of registered horses over the years, and always fill out the seller's part on the papers or on the transfer slips (depending on the breed) and leave the buyer info blank for the eventual owner to fill in and send in to get the horse registered in his/her name. I sell a lot of auto mobiles and motorcycles, and I fill out the back of the title as seller, don't date it, and give it to the buyer to register . If I was going to by a registered horse, and the seller told me that they would send in the transfer, and get the papers mailed to me later, I would noy buy it. Nor would I buy a truck if the seller told me that they would fill out and send in the MV-1, and have the title mailed to me. Nor would I pay for a registered cow or bull, and the owner tell me they would mail the papers to me later.
It probably is here in GA too, but it will work if you don't date it and don't date the bill of sale til you go to transfer it. In Ga, you have 30 days from the purchase date to transfer the title.Here its actually illegal to have a signed open title on a vehicle. I may be wrong but I think @simme transferred the papers on my bull to me at no cost to him but it would have cost me if i had sent the papers in myself. Someone correct me if im wrong. Every bull i have bought for the last 25 years the breeder registered the papers in my name.
With the simmental association, the first transfer of an animal after registration is "free" - no additional cost beyond the cost of the registration. Registration, data submission, and transfer can all be done online. Your bull was transferred to you minutes after he left here. If a physical registration "paper" is requested, that is mailed out from the association in a few days at no additional cost to anyone. Default now is that the "papers" are stored in the association's "digital vault" and can be viewed online and a certified copy can be downloaded by the owner as needed. Of course, a mailed paper copy can be requested at time of registration or transfer.Here its actually illegal to have a signed open title on a vehicle. I may be wrong but I think @simme transferred the papers on my bull to me at no cost to him but it would have cost me if i had sent the papers in myself. Someone correct me if im wrong. Every bull i have bought for the last 25 years the breeder registered the papers in my name.
What breed do you raise, @yippee? and where are you located?I have experience with this issue. We sell registered cattle and do not transfer ownership until the animal is paid in full. We have to protect ourselves as well. The best advice I have is not to do business with sketchy people. Get a bill of sale that documents payment.
How about a reg Char cow that is bred? How does one get the calf registered when it arrives? Those 7 reg red char heifers that were bred, the seller was gonna transfer their papers, but I don't recall what he said about how to register those calves when they are born. Originally the man that bought 4 of them was gonna use them in his Gert x Herf, in lieu of Herefords. And the 3 Clay bought he was intending on AI-ing them to sexed for male, black Herf semen. Now they have both decided to use sexed for female red Char semen. Probably what they should do is join the association themselves, huh? Since they are gonna produce reg red Char heifers each year?I recently bought a Hereford bull and got the registration paper within a couple of weeks or so of getting the bull. The transfer was written.and signed by the breeder after payment for the bull which is customary.
Years ago when I was in the registered Charolais business, I can't remember what the transfer fee was but a lot of breeders figured out a way to make extra money from it they would charge an additional $50 -$100 dollars to transfer the registration paper to the buyer. The seller could transfer it much cheaper nearly half price of what a nonmember buyer could. I'm sure they transferred the registrations as a breeder and pocketed the rest of the money. I never played that game, I always asked if the buyers wanted papers, if so I transferred them with no cost to the buyer.
Most breeders that I have dealt with across several breeds have been prompt in getting the paperwork transferred.
Once, we had to contact a seller a couple times about papers that we had bought a heifer through one of their production sales.