bruce.mcmonigle
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Maybe some good news for the Limousin breeders !!
Maybe some good news for the Limousin breeders !!
upfrombottom":1c4c49so said:Y'all like microwave popcorn or popped in a skillet popcorn?
alexfarms":32epzbbj said:Fall 2010 Hereford epd's are posted on the AHA website.
Herefords.US":3u9khm2t said:alexfarms":3u9khm2t said:Fall 2010 Hereford epd's are posted on the AHA website.
Yeah, I noticed the BW EPD of HH Advance 8203U took a significant jump up. It's still too early to know where it'll settle, but the early trend is disappointing.
George
SRBeef":a7id1r2z said:Herefords.US":a7id1r2z said:alexfarms":a7id1r2z said:Fall 2010 Hereford epd's are posted on the AHA website.
Yeah, I noticed the BW EPD of HH Advance 8203U took a significant jump up. It's still too early to know where it'll settle, but the early trend is disappointing.
George
At the risk of bragging, it is nice to see my T-21 bull is now up to $31 in the CHB index and stayed at $26 in the BMI putting him in the top 1% of both. Getting to be darn tough to sell him. I will have to work something out with my neighbor about swapping heifers at breeding time.... apologies for bragging. Jim
Herefords.US":1lewmr5b said:...Since there's no progeny data to back that up, thus no accuracy, I'd say that information and $5 ought to get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks - and you might get a little change back.
George
Herefords.US":2cebohcs said:My point is those numbers don't mean much at that low accuracy levels! Looking at your calves - now that DOES mean something! But to say that backs up the indexes, when there is nothing to compare them with, is nothing but pure speculation and, as you say, in your mind.
I noticed you haven't "bragged" about the fact that T21's dam appears to have a calf only every other year, based on her AHA progeny record. Now, that, to me, is a statistic that means something - and would be a concern to me...if there isn't an underlying reason.
George
Herefords.US":19nn9dr9 said:Did you look at the progeny record of the dam of your NEW bull before buying him?
2 successive periods of going 15 months between calves - and going over 365 days every time - through 4 calves.
This is something that ISN'T reflected in EPDs.
George
Herefords.US":lqzmzh1s said:It took all of 2 minutes to look him up. There were only 27 bulls in that sale. FYI, I've been studying Huth's herd (EPDs) since I saw Stacked Deck sell in Denver, which I guess was January of 2003.
Interesting that you bought a paternal half brother to your old bull, so you will be linebreeding to a certain extent. I think it should work out well - and your bulls' sire had a dam that was virtually a role model cow - never missed in 10 calves, so maternally you should be stacking the better half.
I tend to study things to death before making a move - and even though I may trust the breeder, I still ask the hard questions when I see something that needs to be clarified. Some of them don't like it much - and most are surprised I have that much information.
George
Brandonm22":2xybuce6 said:Knersie and George are right. I like the calves (which is really the only important thing); but without more than one bull in the pasture you can't say that he performed up to the EPDs. He could actually be +0 for growth or the growthiest bull in the breed; but you can't mathematically prove either one without something to compare him against.
That is a ration within that/those herds. If the others in the group sire tiny little guys that will skew the ratio.Herefords.US":2hlqy58y said:Getting back to HH Advance 8203U -
89 calves with an avg. 105% BW ratio. :frowns:
Looking at the herds from which those calves were reported - Harrell, Holden , Stuber, Hoffman - I'm going to speculate that percentage is not going to moderate much in the future.
It's a shame because I thought the bull had a lot to offer - if the BW didn't jump up.
But I can't see a bull that increases BW by 5% over average being widely used and becoming a significant positive influence in the breed.
Appears I was wrong about this one! :dunce:
George