KNERSIE":1xpdtbm8 said:I'll be the contrarian again...
She is proving to be a usefull commercial cow for producing terminal calves. I wouldn't consider her for producing replacements and I think her future calves will benefit from more bull power.
More bull power (yes I agree) but while am still trying to put a good herd together I will not be getting a contintal bull anytime soon. While A-I is an option I dont think I will go that route.JHH
KNERSIE":1xvlr9vh said:I'll be the contrarian again...
She is proving to be a usefull commercial cow for producing terminal calves. I wouldn't consider her for producing replacements and I think her future calves will benefit from more bull power.
cfpinz":fz8pxzma said:I'd like to see her bred to a continental bull with some ass.
Although I know she has flaws, and she isnt anything to look at I would keep a heifer from her if she ever gave me one. The reason being she earns her keep and I think a daughter would also but You just dont know till then.In spite of the fact that most breeders realize that some of their producers are not what they should or COULD be, they persist in playing the "Golly-Whiz-maybe-she-will-turn-out-better-than-I-KNOW-darned-good-and-well-that-she-WON'T" - game! Why we insist on being "Barn Blind" to the faults, inconsistencies, and 'NON PROFIT'-making characteristics in our breeding herds just because it is "Good Ol' Molly (or Betsy, or Bossy, or because the wife raised her on a bottle because of - - whatever), and continue to 'make excuses' - - 'JUST BECAUSE' maybe a 'better' bull would help make a replacement heifer that you have to keep for THREE L-O-O-N-G YEARS before reality sets in and you realize that - "No, the 'better bull' (whatever that may turn out to be) didn't magically wipe out the lack of muscle, the shallow body, the funnel butt, and the lack of profit that I may have been able to achieve by selling this cow four years ago, adding a little more $$$ as a 'long-term-investment' to the return that I got from Ol' Molly, and NOW (a few years later), I have a BETTER NEW Ol' Molly, a better replacement heifer, and two other calves that I could have sold, or kept - as the case might be, and not have to continue to lie to myself and make excuses for a lack of quality that Ol' Molly was genetically engineered to produce - whatever my 'Pie-In-The-Sky' dreams might have led me to believe!
This particular white-faced cow is not as non-productive as many others around the country are, but she certainly could be a MUCH more profitable producer than she is presently, whatever your excuses for her may be, and being 'Barn Blind' is not a profitable characteristic for ANY BEEF producer to possess - particularly in these days of high land values, high pasture costs, and high FEED costs.
There are plenty of terrific replacement heifers on the market TODAY (February 2, 2009) - if you will take the bit in your teeth and will just jump in and get your feet wet!
DOC HARRIS
DOC HARRIS":1sgnry4y said:This particular white-faced cow is not as non-productive as many others around the country are, but she certainly could be a MUCH more profitable producer than she is presently, whatever your excuses for her may be, and being 'Barn Blind' is not a profitable characteristic for ANY BEEF producer to possess - particularly in these days of high land values, high pasture costs, and high FEED costs.
There are plenty of terrific replacement heifers on the market TODAY (February 2, 2009) - if you will take the bit in your teeth and will just jump in and get your feet wet!
DOC HARRIS
JHH":3uw47utc said:Almost forgot she weighed 907 lbs at weaning time calf weighed 598 at 6 months old. She is small framed but she stays. She has never given me a heifer yet. I am waiting and hoping for this year.
DOC HARRIS":3l4idi8j said:Although I know she has flaws, and she isnt anything to look at I would keep a heifer from her if she ever gave me one. The reason being she earns her keep and I think a daughter would also but You just dont know till then.In spite of the fact that most breeders realize that some of their producers are not what they should or COULD be, they persist in playing the "Golly-Whiz-maybe-she-will-turn-out-better-than-I-KNOW-darned-good-and-well-that-she-WON'T" - game! Why we insist on being "Barn Blind" to the faults, inconsistencies, and 'NON PROFIT'-making characteristics in our breeding herds just because it is "Good Ol' Molly (or Betsy, or Bossy, or because the wife raised her on a bottle because of - - whatever), and continue to 'make excuses' - - 'JUST BECAUSE' maybe a 'better' bull would help make a replacement heifer that you have to keep for THREE L-O-O-N-G YEARS before reality sets in and you realize that - "No, the 'better bull' (whatever that may turn out to be) didn't magically wipe out the lack of muscle, the shallow body, the funnel butt, and the lack of profit that I may have been able to achieve by selling this cow four years ago, adding a little more $$$ as a 'long-term-investment' to the return that I got from Ol' Molly, and NOW (a few years later), I have a BETTER NEW Ol' Molly, a better replacement heifer, and two other calves that I could have sold, or kept - as the case might be, and not have to continue to lie to myself and make excuses for a lack of quality that Ol' Molly was genetically engineered to produce - whatever my 'Pie-In-The-Sky' dreams might have led me to believe!
This particular white-faced cow is not as non-productive as many others around the country are, but she certainly could be a MUCH more profitable producer than she is presently, whatever your excuses for her may be, and being 'Barn Blind' is not a profitable characteristic for ANY BEEF producer to possess - particularly in these days of high land values, high pasture costs, and high FEED costs.
There are plenty of terrific replacement heifers on the market TODAY (February 2, 2009) - if you will take the bit in your teeth and will just jump in and get your feet wet!
DOC HARRIS
HerefordSire":iw3no82i said:JHH":iw3no82i said:Almost forgot she weighed 907 lbs at weaning time calf weighed 598 at 6 months old. She is small framed but she stays. She has never given me a heifer yet. I am waiting and hoping for this year.
598 / 907 = 65.93% @ 180 days or 3.322 pounds per day
@ 205 days, or and extra 25 days @ 3.322 = 83.05 more pounds
598 + 83 = 681
681 / 907 = 75%
You have a cow weaning a calf which projects to 75% of her weight @ 205 days?
HerefordSire":csjnocbp said:Anything else unusual about her?
DOC HARRIS":6aufqujn said:Although I know she has flaws, and she isnt anything to look at I would keep a heifer from her if she ever gave me one. The reason being she earns her keep and I think a daughter would also but You just dont know till then.In spite of the fact that most breeders realize that some of their producers are not what they should or COULD be, they persist in playing the "Golly-Whiz-maybe-she-will-turn-out-better-than-I-KNOW-darned-good-and-well-that-she-WON'T" - game! Why we insist on being "Barn Blind" to the faults, inconsistencies, and 'NON PROFIT'-making characteristics in our breeding herds just because it is "Good Ol' Molly (or Betsy, or Bossy, or because the wife raised her on a bottle because of - - whatever), and continue to 'make excuses' - - 'JUST BECAUSE' maybe a 'better' bull would help make a replacement heifer that you have to keep for THREE L-O-O-N-G YEARS before reality sets in and you realize that - "No, the 'better bull' (whatever that may turn out to be) didn't magically wipe out the lack of muscle, the shallow body, the funnel butt, and the lack of profit that I may have been able to achieve by selling this cow four years ago, adding a little more $$$ as a 'long-term-investment' to the return that I got from Ol' Molly, and NOW (a few years later), I have a BETTER NEW Ol' Molly, a better replacement heifer, and two other calves that I could have sold, or kept - as the case might be, and not have to continue to lie to myself and make excuses for a lack of quality that Ol' Molly was genetically engineered to produce - whatever my 'Pie-In-The-Sky' dreams might have led me to believe!
This particular white-faced cow is not as non-productive as many others around the country are, but she certainly could be a MUCH more profitable producer than she is presently, whatever your excuses for her may be, and being 'Barn Blind' is not a profitable characteristic for ANY BEEF producer to possess - particularly in these days of high land values, high pasture costs, and high FEED costs.
There are plenty of terrific replacement heifers on the market TODAY (February 2, 2009) - if you will take the bit in your teeth and will just jump in and get your feet wet!
DOC HARRIS