- Nov 13, 2005
- Reaction score
- Minehead Somerset England.
1982vett":1ci5r13r said:Hate to be nit-pickey, but a 16-hour rotation isn't once a day. ;-)
novaman":176bo7kn said:I can see where money would be saved by cutting back on milkings, but I wonder if it really pencils out as well as it seems. If paid labor is part of the dairy I could understand some savings. However, it seems that too many dairymen are worried about cutting costs and lose sight of the potential income they are giving up. It is a fact that milk is given up the fewer times a cow is milked in a 24 hour period. Giving up milk gives up cashflow. I have not done any figuring but it seems to me that one would be much further ahead by cutting cow numbers and staying at 2X milking rather than maintaining cow numbers and, because of labor shortage or whatnot, cutting back to 1X milking. More cows with lower production are less efficient than fewer cows with greater production. With environmental issues these days, we should all be concerned with efficiencies now more than ever.
Could you explain what you're getting at? Making more money is usually a good thing but are you suggesting you would make more money on 1X over 2X?johnlesse":rsoujcjb said:
If I were moving to 1X I wouldn't be worried about having top notch cows that's for sure. I would be running whatever was cheap and I wouldn't be sticking a thing into them other then some cheap hay. I wouldn't be getting much milk and even with premiums I wouldn't be getting much of a milk check. However, I would still have all the fixed expenses with running a dairy. The point I'm getting to is you can cut back on what you do or what you have but there will always be fixed costs that must be covered. Low input, low output may work in some instances but cashflow is a must.TexasBred":3mxophwt said:To make "1X" milking work would you want to milk quality dairy cattle or mild mannered Angus or something like that and go for butterfat and protein premiums to compliment the 12-14 lbs. of milk per cow per day?
Fixed costs are anything that would exist regardless of how many cows run through the parlor. To look at it quite simply, the only thing you would cut down on by switching to 1X is labor. Yes you would reduce the wear on rubber parts, pumps, dip and the like but those costs wouldn't add up nearly as much as you would think. You still have to have the tractor to feed. You still have the utilities, detergents, acid, and sanitizer. Reduced feed is a questionable arguement. Yes by milking 1X you would have less milk yield so in turn you would have lower intakes. However, you still have to go through the motions of making it, putting it out, and cleaning it up. I understand where you're coming from as it seems many think in your way of thinking. I just think you are overlooking some things that shouldn't be overlooked. I couldn't switch to 1X and have the same or better margin than what I've got doing 2X. Maybe others have different situations and could but you always get more milk from 2X. I am willing to work a little extra and have a better cashflow.francismilker":1kgl4oy0 said:Novaman,
I realize there's utility bills, mortgages, and taxes. But what else are you referring to as fixed costs if you don't mind? The parlor expenses should drop considerably due to less usage on rubber parts and pumps. Feed would dramatically reduce and parlor labor would reduce. What items would remain "fixed" with 1X a day milking? Thanks.....