Jeanne - Simme Valley
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Thank you. Yes, I know what an underbite looks like and an overbite. I would KNOW if any one of my calves/cows had one. That is definitely discriminated against as a breed animal. "MOST" underbites or overbites are genetic or deficiencies.I admire your knowledge concerning prescription drugs and how to use them to help cattle and also how you share your knowledge with others. Most of the prescription drugs you talk about were not being produced when I had livestock.
Likely you nor the people you know have ever looked at the bite on your calves. If you Google (domestic calves underbite images), lots of photos of calves with underbite posted by their owners will come up. I looked up a discussion about underbite that was on CattleToday about 4 years ago. A rancher said that some of his calves were born with an underbite and he successfully treated them with a special mineral mixture to make the underdeveloped facial bones grow to normal. No one called him names or said he didn't know what he was talking about or said anything derogatory at all. I don't know what a city forum is and I have never lived in a city, so know little about cities. I don't even like going to cities. Yes, some livestock owners do appreciate knowing about the dangers to their livestock and children from teratogenic pesticides. It is surprising that anyone wouldn't.
IMHO opinion - your researchers LOOKED for 1 thing, and they found it. Did any of them do DNA sampling LOOKING for a genetic defect??
You come on our threads and blah blah blah about the same info as if none of us care about good management practices - health, nutrition, genetics, grass health, etc. This is a very complex business and yes, it is insulting that you keep taunting about the pesticides/herbicides being harmful to people and animals (wild and domestic). We care. We got your message and we cared BEFORE your message. Your message is too one-sided for anyone to put much credence to it. Show us DNA proof that the problem wasn't genetics. SOME exposure to bad things can be a good thing. You don't find very many farmers get E-Coli - LOL We do get exposure!!!
Have herbicides/pesticides been harmful in the past? I'm sure they have. Are they still? Probably, but I think all farmers are much more consciences of the problem.