heath
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I know several guys close to me that run Charolais bulls on Angus cows, and could get a weaned calf one at a decent price to raise. What do you think the consistency of the calves from a cross bull like this would be like?
heath":2lthikoe said:I know several guys close to me that run Charolais bulls on Angus cows, and could get a weaned calf one at a decent price to raise. What do you think the consistency of the calves from a cross bull like this would be like?
heath said:wouldn't using this cross bull be the same as using f1 Tiger Mama's?[/quote] no....you get the benefit of hetrosis in the f1 moma cow and maximise it in a 3way cross....though both F1'S. male are female should be superior to their parents they cant reproduce theirselves...
not necessarily.. but matching your breeds and keeping all your eggs in one basket.. will help breed perdictabiltyheath":37kkdh2d said:So cows that are more than a two way cross are not profitable?
heath":1rpgi5gf said:wouldn't using this cross bull be the same as using f1 Tiger Mama's?
i would think after years and years it would breed out, not keep recessive... look at the longhorn after running wild for years....... outside of what they are, thier pretty well defect free.. and have some of the best udders and perfect teats ive ever seen....greybeard":x3n5kddq said:Unknown in = unknown out and it might well mean crap in = crap out.
Saw this in the late 50-60s and 70s when open range was still going on here (and other places). Good mommas and good bulls turned out, by some while mutts ran with the same group and within a few years they were all mutts. Every good and desirable trait in those good mommas was replaced with some recessives that good breeders had gone to a lot of trouble to make and keep recessive. It was a 5 hundred year old woodpile.
ALACOWMAN":2bh88kh0 said:i would think after years and years it would breed out, not keep recessive... look at the longhorn after running wild for years....... outside of what they are, thier pretty well defect free.. and have some of the best udders and perfect teats ive ever seen....greybeard":2bh88kh0 said:Unknown in = unknown out and it might well mean crap in = crap out.
Saw this in the late 50-60s and 70s when open range was still going on here (and other places). Good mommas and good bulls turned out, by some while mutts ran with the same group and within a few years they were all mutts. Every good and desirable trait in those good mommas was replaced with some recessives that good breeders had gone to a lot of trouble to make and keep recessive. It was a 5 hundred year old woodpile.
Dogs, horses and mules.ALACOWMAN":21kattq8 said:bet they where a handfull to gather
greybeard":1raawdx0 said:ALACOWMAN":1raawdx0 said:bet they where a handfull to gather
greybeard":2j0jvw3b said:Not bad anymore. Once they shut down open range in most counties, the ticks seemed to drop way off in ##s--not sure if it's a reduction in livestock or fireants, drought or a combination of all of em.
Seed ticks were so bad back then that I hated going to gym class in school--looked like I had smallpox or something all up and down my legs.
Grubs were really bad back then too..a woods cow's back looked and felt like a washboard.
Ughh--the bad ol days..