Bright Raven
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haase said:
I agree with that. Thank you.
My intent was to clear up any misconceptions about the causes of depression. I am watching the video Nesikep posted. It is very helpful.
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I agree with that. Thank you.
My intent was to clear up any misconceptions about the causes of depression. I am watching the video Nesikep posted. It is very helpful.
Bestoutwest
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sim.-ang.king said:
This is nonsense. Mental illness can not be simple overcome. I do not doubt that finding meaning in life will may create temporary relief, but true depression is a mental illness caused by an imbalance in the brain.
https://www.webmd.com/depression/features/natural-treatments#1
10 Natural Depression Treatments
Being depressed can make you feel helpless. You're not. Along with therapy and sometimes medication, there's a lot you can do on your own to fight back. Changing your behavior -- your physical activity, lifestyle, and even your way of thinking -- are all natural depression treatments.
These tips can help you feel better -- starting right now.
1. Get in a routine. If you're depressed, you need a routine, says Ian Cook, MD. He's a psychiatrist and director of the Depression Research and Clinic Program at UCLA.
Depression can strip away the structure from your life. One day melts into the next. Setting a gentle daily schedule can help you get back on track.
2.Set goals. When you're depressed, you may feel like you can't accomplish anything. That makes you feel worse about yourself. To push back, set daily goals for yourself.
"Start very small," Cook says. "Make your goal something that you can succeed at, like doing the dishes every other day."
3. Exercise. It temporarily boosts feel-good chemicals called endorphins. It may also have long-term benefits for people with depression. Regular exercise seems to encourage the brain to rewire itself in positive ways, Cook says.
How much exercise do you need? You don't need to run marathons to get a benefit. Just walking a few times a week can help.
4. Eat healthy. There is no magic diet that fixes depression. It's a good idea to watch what you eat, though. If depression tends to make you overeat, getting in control of your eating will help you feel better.
Although nothing is definitive, Cook says there's evidence that foods with omega-3 fatty acids (such as salmon and tuna) and folic acid (such as spinach and avocado) could help ease depression.
5. Get enough sleep. Depression can make it hard to get enough shut-eye, and too little sleep can make depression worse.
What can you do? Start by making some changes to your lifestyle. Go to bed and get up at the same time every day. Try not to nap. Take all the distractions out of your bedroom -- no computer and no TV. In time, you may find your sleep improves.
6. Take on responsibilities. When you're depressed, you may want to pull back from life and give up your responsibilities at home and at work. Don't. Staying involved and having daily responsibilities can help you maintain a lifestyle that can help counter depression. They ground you and give you a sense of accomplishment.
If you're not up to full-time school or work, that's fine. Think about part-time. If that seems like too much, consider volunteer work.
7. Challenge negative thoughts. In your fight against depression, a lot of the work is mental -- changing how you think. When you're depressed, you leap to the worst possible conclusions.
The next time you're feeling terrible about yourself, use logic as a natural depression treatment. You might feel like no one likes you, but is there real evidence for that? You might feel like the most worthless person on the planet, but is that really likely? It takes practice, but in time you can beat back those negative thoughts before they get out of control.
8. Check with your doctor before using supplements. "There's promising evidence for certain supplements for depression," Cook says. Those include fish oil, folic acid, and SAMe. But more research needs to be done before we'll know for sure. Always check with your doctor before starting any supplement, especially if you're already taking medications.
9. Do something new. When you're depressed, you're in a rut. Push yourself to do something different. Go to a museum. Pick up a used book and read it on a park bench. Volunteer at a soup kitchen. Take a language class.
"When we challenge ourselves to do something different, there are chemical changes in the brain," Cook says. "Trying something new alters the levels of [the brain chemical] dopamine, which is associated with pleasure, enjoyment, and learning."
10. Try to have fun. If you're depressed, make time for things you enjoy. What if nothing seems fun anymore? "That's just a symptom of depression," Cook says. You have to keep trying anyway.
10 Natural Depression Treatments
Being depressed can make you feel helpless. You're not. Along with therapy and sometimes medication, there's a lot you can do on your own to fight back. Changing your behavior -- your physical activity, lifestyle, and even your way of thinking -- are all natural depression treatments.
These tips can help you feel better -- starting right now.
1. Get in a routine. If you're depressed, you need a routine, says Ian Cook, MD. He's a psychiatrist and director of the Depression Research and Clinic Program at UCLA.
Depression can strip away the structure from your life. One day melts into the next. Setting a gentle daily schedule can help you get back on track.
2.Set goals. When you're depressed, you may feel like you can't accomplish anything. That makes you feel worse about yourself. To push back, set daily goals for yourself.
"Start very small," Cook says. "Make your goal something that you can succeed at, like doing the dishes every other day."
3. Exercise. It temporarily boosts feel-good chemicals called endorphins. It may also have long-term benefits for people with depression. Regular exercise seems to encourage the brain to rewire itself in positive ways, Cook says.
How much exercise do you need? You don't need to run marathons to get a benefit. Just walking a few times a week can help.
4. Eat healthy. There is no magic diet that fixes depression. It's a good idea to watch what you eat, though. If depression tends to make you overeat, getting in control of your eating will help you feel better.
Although nothing is definitive, Cook says there's evidence that foods with omega-3 fatty acids (such as salmon and tuna) and folic acid (such as spinach and avocado) could help ease depression.
5. Get enough sleep. Depression can make it hard to get enough shut-eye, and too little sleep can make depression worse.
What can you do? Start by making some changes to your lifestyle. Go to bed and get up at the same time every day. Try not to nap. Take all the distractions out of your bedroom -- no computer and no TV. In time, you may find your sleep improves.
6. Take on responsibilities. When you're depressed, you may want to pull back from life and give up your responsibilities at home and at work. Don't. Staying involved and having daily responsibilities can help you maintain a lifestyle that can help counter depression. They ground you and give you a sense of accomplishment.
If you're not up to full-time school or work, that's fine. Think about part-time. If that seems like too much, consider volunteer work.
7. Challenge negative thoughts. In your fight against depression, a lot of the work is mental -- changing how you think. When you're depressed, you leap to the worst possible conclusions.
The next time you're feeling terrible about yourself, use logic as a natural depression treatment. You might feel like no one likes you, but is there real evidence for that? You might feel like the most worthless person on the planet, but is that really likely? It takes practice, but in time you can beat back those negative thoughts before they get out of control.
8. Check with your doctor before using supplements. "There's promising evidence for certain supplements for depression," Cook says. Those include fish oil, folic acid, and SAMe. But more research needs to be done before we'll know for sure. Always check with your doctor before starting any supplement, especially if you're already taking medications.
9. Do something new. When you're depressed, you're in a rut. Push yourself to do something different. Go to a museum. Pick up a used book and read it on a park bench. Volunteer at a soup kitchen. Take a language class.
"When we challenge ourselves to do something different, there are chemical changes in the brain," Cook says. "Trying something new alters the levels of [the brain chemical] dopamine, which is associated with pleasure, enjoyment, and learning."
10. Try to have fun. If you're depressed, make time for things you enjoy. What if nothing seems fun anymore? "That's just a symptom of depression," Cook says. You have to keep trying anyway.
alisonb
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...a 'chemical' imbalance... ;-)Bestoutwest said:
Depression is not always caused by an imbalance.
alisonb
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https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/326090.php#dopamine
alisonb
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jltrent - Those are valid points and certainly assist in the 'fight back'. I would like to add 2 if you dont mind ;-)
1)Understanding the reason why you have depression is really important as this is what you have to correct at the end of the day.
2)Self pity will not get you anywhere, only deeper into the dark hole.
1)Understanding the reason why you have depression is really important as this is what you have to correct at the end of the day.
2)Self pity will not get you anywhere, only deeper into the dark hole.
Bright Raven
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alisonb said:
Physiological and endocrine function are great points to bring to the table. Thank you.
Alison, remember the "old days"? When some Yahoo would come to a thread like this and post something along these lines!
"Bullshyt, just grow a set and get over it you liberal".
Or when Mod2 would have to say stop stirring?
alisonb
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Bright Raven said:alisonb said:
Physiological and endocrine function are great points to bring to the table. Thank you.
Alison, remember the "old days"? When some Yahoo would come to a thread like this and post something along these lines!
"Bullshyt, just grow a set and get over it you liberal".
Yes...I remember very well. Quite some years ago this same topic was being discussed on CT and a member by the name of Inyati said something very similar
Bright Raven
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alisonb said:Bright Raven said:alisonb said:
Physiological and endocrine function are great points to bring to the table. Thank you.
Alison, remember the "old days"? When some Yahoo would come to a thread like this and post something along these lines!
"Bullshyt, just grow a set and get over it you liberal".
Yes...I remember very well. Quite some years ago this same topic was being discussed on CT and a member by the name of Inyati said something very similar
All in humor, of course.
You have to commend Deuce. Deuce cleaned up this board like Wyatt Earp cleaned out Tombstone. I wonder if he packs his 1911 when he reads the board.
alisonb
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I thought Deuce is of the female gender :?Bright Raven said:You have to commend Deuce. Deuce cleaned up this board like Wyatt Earp cleaned out Tombstone. I wonder if he packs his 1911 when he reads the board.
One can identify as one chooses these days.
Bright Raven
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alisonb said:I thought Deuce is of the female gender :?Bright Raven said:You have to commend Deuce. Deuce cleaned up this board like Wyatt Earp cleaned out Tombstone. I wonder if he packs his 1911 when he reads the board.
Your Grace, Deuce is not intended to be any reference to gender.
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Strong people treat depression like a stumped toe.....walk it off....
sim.-ang.king
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Bright Raven said:haase said:The thread had nothing to do with religion, thanks for bringing it in, probably get another good thread shut down.
My good friend Sim Ang King stuck his nose under the tent. IMO, no harm has been done. Three posts followed Sim Ang King's lead. There was an implication that somehow depression is related to religious fulfillment. I simply disagree.
Sim Ang King posted:
Might help people's depression if they were to remember the real reason for Christmas isn't the gifts, or the tree, or even being with family in a cozy house. It's all to remember that single solitary life, that came to bring joy to the heavy hearted, and to be a friend to some poor lonely lost soul. He is all you need to find joy.
Doesn't have to be about religion, just be kind to each other, love those that don't feel loved, and be a friend to the friendless. Those are the truths He lived by, and in those truths you can find Joy, or help your fellow man find Joy, in any season of life.
I don't care either way, if you think some pill from a doctor will solve all of your problems, then by all means take it.
And it will work, for now, but until you come to the real root of your depression, it will never get fixed.
Merry Christmas everyone, and may it be a happy one!
Bright Raven
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sim.-ang.king said:Bright Raven said:haase said:The thread had nothing to do with religion, thanks for bringing it in, probably get another good thread shut down.
My good friend Sim Ang King stuck his nose under the tent. IMO, no harm has been done. Three posts followed Sim Ang King's lead. There was an implication that somehow depression is related to religious fulfillment. I simply disagree.
Sim Ang King posted:
Might help people's depression if they were to remember the real reason for Christmas isn't the gifts, or the tree, or even being with family in a cozy house. It's all to remember that single solitary life, that came to bring joy to the heavy hearted, and to be a friend to some poor lonely lost soul. He is all you need to find joy.
Doesn't have to be about religion, just be kind to each other, love those that don't feel loved, and be a friend to the friendless. Those are the truths He lived by, and in those truths you can find Joy, or help your fellow man find Joy, in any season of life.
I don't care either way, if you think some pill from a doctor will solve all of your problems, then by all means take it.
And it will work, for now, but until you come to the real root of your depression, it will never get fixed.
Merry Christmas everyone, and may it be a happy one!
Dang, that is depressing. ;-)
Merry Christmas my Lord.
sim.-ang.king
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Bright Raven said:
Got to be brought down before you can be lifted up. :tiphat:
Bright Raven
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sim.-ang.king said:
Ride Em High Cowboy!
Sometimes the root of your depression cannot be fixed. I went through a very traumatic event 5 years ago. I was diagnosed with PTSD. PTSD and depression go hand in hand. I dealt with it by putting my mind into bottle calves. Kept me busy, gave me routine. I had a big purpose...keeping those calves alive and happy. Some people choose to heal with medication, some with life changes and routine and some cannot find peace. My experience pushed me further away from religion....definitely not closer. But depression comes from all sorts of things. Scientifically we can say I believe it comes from an imbalance in the brain. But that imbalance can come from all sorts of things. Genetics, disease, medication, traumatic events. Etc. I cannot say I have ever had depression Bcs I don't feel I have. I have days, we all do, and I try to turn them around. For me it's in my cows. It's why they are my hobby. They make me happy and they need me. And everyone needs something to give them purpose.
You never know what someone is going through.
The smile ,kind words or just a helping hand may be a life saver. How about we all just try to be more neighborly to those we come in contact with in our daily lives. Not just at Christmas time but all through out the year.
The smile ,kind words or just a helping hand may be a life saver. How about we all just try to be more neighborly to those we come in contact with in our daily lives. Not just at Christmas time but all through out the year.
