Beefmaster Cows

[Muddy]

I know most of y'all are smarter and more knowledgeable than I am, but I was taught in school (a long time ago) that Brahman, Hereford, and Shorthorn were used to develop the Beefmaster breed. So where did the black come from if they didn't add Angus in there somewhere?

+1

Brahman, they carried the wild type colors that caused black hided. Real Black Beefmasters may not able to produce solid black calves even if hes on all red cows herd. Black Beefmasters are usually produced by brindled parents.

 

[Caustic Burno]

A real Beefmaster is not black

Yup

http://www.dalelasaterranch.com/embryos.htm

scroll down tell that to dale lasiter

tell east caney also

http://www.cattletoday.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=47878

I don't have too they have fallen off into the Angus septic tank like most other breeds to chase black hair.
Beefmaster, Limis, Simms etc are not black if you think so you are just fooling yourself.

 

[Muddy]

http://www.dalelasaterranch.com/embryos.htm

scroll down tell that to dale lasiter

tell east caney also

http://www.cattletoday.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=47878

I don't have too they have fallen off into the Angus septic tank like most other breeds to chase black hair.
Beefmaster, Limis, Simms etc are not black if you think so you are just fooling yourself.

Typical Caustic Burno response....

 

[elkwc]

Yup

http://www.dalelasaterranch.com/embryos.htm

scroll down tell that to dale lasiter

tell east caney also

http://www.cattletoday.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=47878

I don't have too they have fallen off into the Angus septic tank like most other breeds to chase black hair.
Beefmaster, Limis, Simms etc are not black if you think so you are just fooling yourself.

+1. You can add others like Herefords and Gelbvieghs to the list. None of them were black. They can fool some with the color but the good feeder buyers can see what they are regardless of what color they paint them.

 

[Caustic Burno]

http://www.dalelasaterranch.com/embryos.htm

scroll down tell that to dale lasiter

tell east caney also

http://www.cattletoday.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=47878

I don't have too they have fallen off into the Angus septic tank like most other breeds to chase black hair.
Beefmaster, Limis, Simms etc are not black if you think so you are just fooling yourself.

Typical Caustic Burno response....

Truth hurts those that can't compete have to resort to black hair.

 

[Muddy]

I don't have too they have fallen off into the Angus septic tank like most other breeds to chase black hair.
Beefmaster, Limis, Simms etc are not black if you think so you are just fooling yourself.

Typical Caustic Burno response....

Truth hurts those that can't compete have to resort to black hair.

You're so hilarious. Can't even click on the links that someone provide and see the true black Beefmasters.

 

[Caustic Burno]

No I just don't fall for your PT Barnum crap. Beefmasters turned black overnight like the others chasing black hide if you want black Brahmans Brangus fills that void not trying to be something it's not.
If you want black get on the Angus train and quit screwing up every breed chasing hair.

 

[Muddy]

No I just don't fall for your PT Barnum crap. Beefmasters turned black overnight like the others chasing black hide if you want black Brahmans Brangus fills that void not trying to be something it's not.
If you want black get on the Angus train and quit screwing up every breed chasing hair.

So you didn't research on the black Beefmasters, not even a bit?

 

[WORANCH]

Take a look at this site.


.http://www.wildoaksfarms.com/COWS/ISA BLACK/TheIsaCattleCompanyBlackBeefmasters.htm

 

[Caustic Burno]

http://www.wildoaksfarms.com/BlackBeefm ... edThem.htm

 

[WORANCH]

http://www.wildoaksfarms.com/BlackBeefmasterGeneticsHowtoEffectivelyBreedThem.htm

So there can be black beefmasters without crossing Angus or Brangus..

Since I began writing this article I have been informed that one of the original Brahman bulls used to produce the Beefmaster breed was black. Mr. Lasater also reportedly said that some black calves were periodically produced in his herd

 

[Caustic Burno]

Apparently you skipped the BS breeding up program creating a four way composite that was not the original intent.
Also Lasiter culled the black calves when creating his composite breed as undesirable.
I love Beefmaster Brangus all the Brahman composites I loath those that screw up the the original intent to chase color.

 

[Muddy]

http://www.sss-mag.com/fernhill/cowcolor.html
Check out the Brindling section, it also explains about where the solid black Beefmasters came from.

"many other breeders have the same experience that we have -- brindle cattle producing solid black offspring -- and it may be simply that the standard wisdom is wrong. Brindle may be able to operate even in the presence of a black gene as long as a wild-type brown gene is also present. Jerry Hemphill, the BBU Field Service representative, says this is fairly common in his experience -- there have been a number of incidents of brindle Beefmaster cattle throwing black when bred to red."

 

[Muddy]

Apparently you skipped the BS breeding up program creating a four way composite that was not the original intent.
Also Lasiter culled the black calves when creating his composite breed as undesirable.
I love Beefmaster Brangus all the Brahman composites I loath those that screw up the the original intent to chase color.

I swore you don't know how to read in the link. Laster started to retaining black cattle instead of culling them out of the herd in the link WORANCH posted.

 

[Caustic Burno]

Muddy you wouldn't know a good Brahman or Brahman composite if it shyt on your boot.
The composites were never conceived for color it was survival, reproductive qualities on harsh subtropical environments producing pounds of beef where continentals and English failed

 

[JWBrahman]

Go look at some of East Caney's posts, he has a great herd of Beefmasters and they are the colors I listed.

I agree with most things what you said. Didn't he has a solid white Beefmaster bull a little while ago? But I'd rather breed the Beefmaster cows to a bull of another breed for better uniformity in the calves than the Beefmaster bulls.

My preference will always be Brahman. Brahman boiadeiras (cowgirls) are a different breed than the Bos raurus Betties. Time to take a trip to Brazil and get you one like this, Muddy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ifRv5LopvZ4

 

[callmefence]

I would appreciate it if someone posted pictures of BM Xs.

Back several years ago i traded some fence for a little group of pure beefmaster cows. First year I bred em to a brangus bull (unregeristed) since I have ran a registered angus bull over them. I keep some heifers out of both their still out their for the most part. Give me a bit and I'll post some pics.

Go look at some of East Caney's posts, he has a great herd of Beefmasters and they are the colors I listed.

I agree with most things what you said. Didn't he has a solid white Beefmaster bull a little while ago? But I'd rather breed the Beefmaster cows to a bull of another breed for better uniformity in the calves than the Beefmaster bulls.

My preference will always be Brahman. Brahman boiadeiras (cowgirls) are a different breed than the Bos raurus Betties. Time to take a trip to Brazil and get you one like this, Muddy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ifRv5LopvZ4

Whooweeeey that's some mighty fine horn blowing. :cowboy:

 

[callmefence]

I would appreciate it if someone posted pictures of BM Xs.

Had a about 10 pics only lets you post 6.
First 3 I took this morning ,their coming off pretty sorry summer grass
12 months bmxangus


17 months bmxangus


About to wean 2nd calf bmxangus





Bm x brangus with Angus calf






Bm with Angus calf




Bmxangus





Bm x brangus


Bmxbrangus

 

[HDRider]

Nice Fence. Thanks

 

[insurman]

A real Beefmaster is not black

Correct and I wish they would stop trying to convince people they purebred. If they are black, then something jumped the fence.

I have no problem with Beefmaster cows/crosses..we have several that have been in the herd going way back. But go to a Collier Farms sale, 100% red, mostly solid colored or with a little white on the belly.