Affordable health care.

[True Grit Farms]

My brother's newest (and different this time) chemo treatment he is scheduled to start this week is $14K per treatment--3 X per week. Waiting for his insurance to approve it. :bang:

This will blow your mind:
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2 ... drugs.aspx

Not really. I suppose I have just become numb to those sorts of things. His other chemo drugs were not inexpensive-nearly that much.
No. 3: Zykadia is what his is, tho he stated it was $14k per treatment--not per month. His insurance may be balking some, having paid for brain surgery July 2015, chemo late 2015, then a 2nd brain surgery last month and now more chemo...as well as bypass surgery and then stents during the last 20 years. I've offered to pay the difference in his other chem and this current proposal but he refused. If he does nothing at all, his survival prognosis is 'single digit months'. :???:

GB, what's up with the VA care?

 

[M-5]

The new civil war that's coming will separate the grain from the chaff .

And who will be the chaff.

I think you know !!

 

[hurleyjd]

The new civil war that's coming will separate the grain from the chaff .

And who will be the chaff.

I think you know !!

You will need a well regulated militia to take on the USA. The ones thinking about civil war can not every be well regulated and subservient to any one in authority. So a well regulated militia will have to have discipline and a head leader to keep it regulated and organized and some one to foot the bills.

 

[Stocker Steve]

The problem is we have more people getting entitlements than we have people working so how do you think the election is going to go. gizmom

2X
Free phones are the tip of the iceberg.
Got a note from our liberal governor not to worry about unaffordable care - - the state will cover premium increases for low income people... I support folks having medical coverage but the costs are out of control here.

 

[bball]

The Tytler cycle is coming around full circle...more folks at "dependence" every day, while the stragglers remain at "apathy"...it's happening.

ETA:

 

[JSCATTLE]

We have decent coverage through my employer.. we were getting a 3 percent raise in Feb for cost of living .. well just so happens our insurance is going up 80 dollars a month .. 1 dollar a hour .. so my raise is .20 cents a hour ..

 

[js1234]

Our health insurance costs (not even talking about Workman's Comp, yikes) for our employees is crazy.
We pay 100% of the health insurance cost for our employees and 50% of the cost for their dependents if they choose to have them covered.

 

[callmefence]

Got my new policy update yesterday. Up about 30% it would be the largest monthly payment I've ever had in my life for anything.
This is the straw . I don't know what I'm gonna do, but I'm gonna go a different way.

This year my wife had a minor fracture in her wrist. Other than that just normal viaits. Policy is only me and wife. Bcbs silver plan

 

[True Grit Farms]

Got my new policy update yesterday. Up about 30% it would be the largest monthly payment I've ever had in my life for anything.
This is the straw . I don't know what I'm gonna do, but I'm gonna go a different way.

This year my wife had a minor fracture in her wrist. Other than that just normal viaits. Policy is only me and wife. Bcbs silver plan

BCBS, won't cover this inhaler that I use, and I don't really blame them. It's $10.00 a day buying out of Canada, twice that much in this country. When I can scrounge up free samples it's like I won the lottery. The problem with health care is many, but the drug prices, hospital fee's and administrative cost is over the top. IMO

 

[HDRider]

The plan is to drive to a single payer system.

 

[Bestoutwest]

Got my new policy update yesterday. Up about 30% it would be the largest monthly payment I've ever had in my life for anything.
This is the straw . I don't know what I'm gonna do, but I'm gonna go a different way.

This year my wife had a minor fracture in her wrist. Other than that just normal viaits. Policy is only me and wife. Bcbs silver plan

That's a mortgage payment on a really nice place. That's insane. I'm sorry to see this happening to people who are working. I guess there's only one thing to do. We all quit and break the system.

 

[Caustic Burno]

Ours went up a 100 bucks a month as well as raising all the deductibles along with higher max out of pocket.
Absolutely wonderful paying more for less

 

[1982vett]

Don't want to think about it......but gonna have to.

 

[True Grit Farms]

Ours went up a 100 bucks a month as well as raising all the deductibles along with higher max out of pocket.
Absolutely wonderful paying more for less

That's called inflation. I wonder China would sell us health insurance? If we ain't healthy we can't buy there junk.

 

[Caustic Burno]

Ours went up a 100 bucks a month as well as raising all the deductibles along with higher max out of pocket.
Absolutely wonderful paying more for less

That's called inflation. I wonder China would sell us health insurance? If we ain't healthy we can't buy there junk.

Can't be the government says we didn't have any inflation

 

[Commercialfarmer]

The plan is to drive to a single payer system.

This.

Written by a man that has been in the news recently that doesn't care about health or health insurance, but wants to control 1/6 th of our economy.

First step was getting the public to believe that health care is a right.

Health care is a service. It's not included in the constitution.


Thought of something today that my dad told me about 30 years ago. My daughter and I were driving by the place he was born. Just the foundation is left, I showed her. Pointed across the way to another section where her great grandad was born that just has a cellar left. And then I told her, and I was born in the hospital. Told her think about that, I'm the first in that line that was born in a hospital.

I asked dad when he showed me 30 years ago where he was born, why he wasn't born in the hospital thinkig that they didnt have time to get there or some such reason. He replied, because that took money. And we didn't have money.

Health care hasnt been a right, and it still isnt.

If health care is a right, then no matter the cost, and no matter the limited amount of time or success a treatment might provide, a person has a right to that treatment.

HG has a right to the expessive meds his insurance isnt wanting to pay for. The insurance doesnt have an ability to deny any treatment or surgey for any reason. If you can't say you believe that, or understand that it will break our country, then you have to admit health care is not a right.

What we had was a system where hospitals did provide emergency care for unstable people no matter their ability to pay. It was a practical approach and yet valued all lives.

Now we will have a failed system and a broke people. All for control of 1/6th of our economy, and sold by false advertising.

 

[Commercialfarmer]

Got my new policy update yesterday. Up about 30% it would be the largest monthly payment I've ever had in my life for anything.
This is the straw . I don't know what I'm gonna do, but I'm gonna go a different way.

This year my wife had a minor fracture in her wrist. Other than that just normal viaits. Policy is only me and wife. Bcbs silver plan

That's a mortgage payment on a really nice place. That's insane. I'm sorry to see this happening to people who are working. I guess there's only one thing to do. We all quit and break the system.

:tiphat: Ding, Ding, Ding! This is a real world example of why socialism fails.

Why work hard if all your money is going to get put in the pot no matter how hard you work? And yet, you only get back what someone else deems you need- irrespective of how hard you worked or how much you contributed. I can do nothing and still get an equal share of everyone elses work.

All your horses lay down and stop pulling the cart.

Oh, you can whip them. But you will never get the same production out of them as you would if they were getting rewarded for pulling the cart

(Charity is different, charity is FREE WILL giving to those that are needy because they can't produce.)

 

[HDRider]

It cost less than $200 for me to be born in a hospital in 1960. $1,700 in today's money.

Today the average cost is $3,500.

Not a real big leap. It seems health care cost a lot more now because doctors and hospitals can do so much more. People want to live and be healthy.

Insurance costs are what is out of control, not health care.

 

[Stocker Steve]

With the new law not allowing filtering for pre existing conditions - - can you sign up for Obama care on the same day you check into the hospital?

 

[True Grit Farms]

It cost less than $200 for me to be born in a hospital in 1960. $1,700 in today's money.

Today the average cost is $3,500.

Not a real big leap. It seems health care cost a lot more now because doctors and hospitals can do so much more. People want to live and be healthy.

Insurance costs are what is out of control, not health care.

Our son cost us $3,750. for a day at the hospital, and doctor Smith charged us $2,500. in delivery fees in 1992. We decided to have our daughter at home with both grandma's helping. But after my daughter having her umbilical cord wrapped around her neck, and my wife not pushing because she wasn't having a contraction, I'm not sure that we'd go through that again. It was the most intense minute of our lives, and to think it looked so easy. And the best thing about it is she's alive and it's all recorded on video.