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Looked at this yesterday and needed a doctor because I was sick to my stomach. Everything was a HMO or EPO (exclusive provider organization), which none of my doctors participate.
 
M-5":1xn6fjbu said:
This should Help keep monica's boyfriend wife from getting the new job.
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She wants it to fail completely, then she can go to work on her single payer fully gov't owned and operated health care plan. Socialism is growing and becming more and more attractive to the "takers".
 
The problem is we have more people getting entitlements than we have people working so how do you think the election is going to go. Those of us that work for a living are up the creek without a paddle. Sorry I hate to be negative but right now I am just not feeling very good about the direction our country is going. Feeling pretty darn scared.

gizmom
 
We just got the insurance policy from my work yesterday. I work for a hospital, which is pretty sad looking at the prices of the policies. One of the family plans costs $5,900/yr and then you have a deductible on top of that. Granted, the medical community it able to accomplish 10X more today than they were 30 years ago, but this is getting a little insane. The big problem, though, is that the problem is multifaceted. Tort reform needs to happen quickly and with a strong hand to rein things in. Drug manufacturers need to realize that we're going to run out of money soon. And people need to work for what they want. I feel like I'm just scratching the surface here, but IF these things were to happen we would see change. But because none of these things will happen, we're all screwed. Massively.
 
Bestoutwest":2z6hzv3y said:
We just got the insurance policy from my work yesterday. I work for a hospital, which is pretty sad looking at the prices of the policies. One of the family plans costs $5,900/yr and then you have a deductible on top of that. Granted, the medical community it able to accomplish 10X more today than they were 30 years ago, but this is getting a little insane. The big problem, though, is that the problem is multifaceted. Tort reform needs to happen quickly and with a strong hand to rein things in. Drug manufacturers need to realize that we're going to run out of money soon. And people need to work for what they want. I feel like I'm just scratching the surface here, but IF these things were to happen we would see change. But because none of these things will happen, we're all screwed. Massively.
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Bcbs policy on my wife in me has gone from 4800.00 to 12,000 in the last 5 years. Deductibles . ER 100.00 to 600.00
And we've lost free choice of our doctor.

It starting to look like American s will have 2 choices. Grab hold of a teat, or grab hold of your steel.
 
My brother's newest (and different this time) chemo treatment he is scheduled to start this week is $14K per treatment--3 X per week. Waiting for his insurance to approve it. :bang:
 
callmefence":2j5dvqqu said:
Bcbs policy on my wife in me has gone from 4800.00 to 12,000 in the last 5 years. Deductibles . ER 100.00 to 600.00
And we've lost free choice of our doctor.

It starting to look like American s will have 2 choices. Grab hold of a teat, or grab hold of your steel.
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The bad part is that paying 12K/year for the good years is stupid, but when you need it you'll pass 12K so quickly your head will spin. It's a nightmare.
 
gizmom":2m7iwppx said:
The problem is we have more people getting entitlements than we have people working so how do you think the election is going to go. Those of us that work for a living are up the creek without a paddle. Sorry I hate to be negative but right now I am just not feeling very good about the direction our country is going. Feeling pretty darn scared.

gizmom
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Sadly, I think you are completely right. :mad: :mad: :mad: Tried talking to a reasonably intelligent young man, son of a previous co-worker, and I got so incensed I had to walk away before I decked him. He and his girlfriend decided to have a baby; no marriage. He had health ins at work. She was not covered so got all sorts of care for "free". Had complications, baby born premature, in hospital for critical care.....I'm glad he is fine now... BUT all this came out of OUR paychecks in taxes and when I tried to express that it wasn't right, he got mad and said that the gov't was paying for it. I asked him WHO THE H*** did he think the gov't got the money from to pay all this stuff....and that if they had been married, his ins would have covered her problems and at least the baby would have been legitimate....I said doesn't it bother you to take all this stuff? And that his taxes on his paycheck was also going to pay for not only his girlfriend but for all the other unwed and illeagle babies being born in this country? He just didn't get it and I was totally floored that he thought they were "entitled" to have a baby cuz they wanted one without considering how it would be paid for...If there is a child born in a couple that is together but not married, then the biological parents need to take responsibility and they should not be eligible for all this stuff. I have one child, got divorced and did not have any more because I couldn't afford it. I've always said anyone can make a mistake, and accidents happen but after the second child they should be sewn up or snip snip done so there are no more....There is NO SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY with this whole group of freeloaders.... :bang: :bang: :deadhorse: :deadhorse:
 
Bestoutwest":14u1i6jf said:
greybeard":14u1i6jf said:
My brother's newest (and different this time) chemo treatment he is scheduled to start this week is $14K per treatment--3 X per week. Waiting for his insurance to approve it. :bang:
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This will blow your mind:
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Not really. I suppose I have just become numb to those sorts of things. His other chemo drugs were not inexpensive-nearly that much.
No. 3: Zykadia is what his is, tho he stated it was $14k per treatment--not per month. His insurance may be balking some, having paid for brain surgery July 2015, chemo late 2015, then a 2nd brain surgery last month and now more chemo...as well as bypass surgery and then stents during the last 20 years. I've offered to pay the difference in his other chem and this current proposal but he refused. If he does nothing at all, his survival prognosis is 'single digit months'. :???:
 

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