cbcr
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Commercialfarmer,
I am not going to get in a be nice contest with you or anyone else. I have over 37 years involved in genetics, as a breeder, AI Technician and Embryo Transplant, with both dairy and beef cattle, so no means am I a rookie a rookie.
The information on our website are FACTS, all backed by the science and technology.
Doesn't this individual have more than one breed of cows? Angus, Hereford and Black Baldie, right?
How would you breed them?
Yes, we say and continue to say that Composites DO have a place in the beef industry. But here is the thing, everyone seems to be missing the point and one of the primary purposes of the Composite Beef Cattle Registry.
Look back at a previous post about the bull Mytty In Focus and his EPD's. Many commercial producers that we have visited with use what? MOSTLY Angus bulls!!! Why? The same comment repeated over and over is we DO NOT understand the EPD's from these other breeds or how to compare them with each other.
What is WRONG with me saying that this breeder should use a single breed bull on his cows? Why then not continue to compliment those resulting offspring with a COMPOSITE bull? He will have more consistency and uniformity and retained hybrid vigor? How many seedstock producers belong to more than one Association? Are you in a roundabout way saying they are wrong too for belonging to more that one Association?
http://animalscience.tamu.edu/images/pd ... csE189.pdf
If you are selling bulls, and if you have a Simmental/Angus bull you are selling that is an outstanding animal, and you have a neighbor selling Registered Angus bulls, If you lose sales to the Angus breeder because potential customers are in confusion over the EPD's, how would you feel? Is losing sales putting money in your pocket? What if you had ACCURATE ACROSS BREED EPD's that would show your potential customer that the bull you are selling will work better for him?
The old saying goes "some people can't see the forest for the trees."
I was not trying nor did I say anything or promote on this post about the Composite Beef Cattle Registry. YOU DID. We were offering a suggestion to the poster.
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I am not going to get in a be nice contest with you or anyone else. I have over 37 years involved in genetics, as a breeder, AI Technician and Embryo Transplant, with both dairy and beef cattle, so no means am I a rookie a rookie.
The information on our website are FACTS, all backed by the science and technology.
Doesn't this individual have more than one breed of cows? Angus, Hereford and Black Baldie, right?
How would you breed them?
Yes, we say and continue to say that Composites DO have a place in the beef industry. But here is the thing, everyone seems to be missing the point and one of the primary purposes of the Composite Beef Cattle Registry.
Look back at a previous post about the bull Mytty In Focus and his EPD's. Many commercial producers that we have visited with use what? MOSTLY Angus bulls!!! Why? The same comment repeated over and over is we DO NOT understand the EPD's from these other breeds or how to compare them with each other.
What is WRONG with me saying that this breeder should use a single breed bull on his cows? Why then not continue to compliment those resulting offspring with a COMPOSITE bull? He will have more consistency and uniformity and retained hybrid vigor? How many seedstock producers belong to more than one Association? Are you in a roundabout way saying they are wrong too for belonging to more that one Association?
http://animalscience.tamu.edu/images/pd ... csE189.pdf
If you are selling bulls, and if you have a Simmental/Angus bull you are selling that is an outstanding animal, and you have a neighbor selling Registered Angus bulls, If you lose sales to the Angus breeder because potential customers are in confusion over the EPD's, how would you feel? Is losing sales putting money in your pocket? What if you had ACCURATE ACROSS BREED EPD's that would show your potential customer that the bull you are selling will work better for him?
The old saying goes "some people can't see the forest for the trees."
I was not trying nor did I say anything or promote on this post about the Composite Beef Cattle Registry. YOU DID. We were offering a suggestion to the poster.
Posts: 13
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:06 am