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The Japs misjudged the Americans will to fight and banked that the British armed forces were already over extended fighting the Axis in Europe and the Atlantic.

There very own "victory" of sorts at Pearl Harbor was the beginning of their eventual defeat.
 
TexasBred":lwxvilok said:
The Japs misjudged the Americans will to fight and banked that the British armed forces were already over extended fighting the Axis in Europe and the Atlantic.

There very own "victory" of sorts at Pearl Harbor was the beginning of their eventual defeat.

You are right had they left the US fleet alone they only had to defeat a much smaller British navy in the region to have complete dominance.
They most likely could have continued their conquest for raw material using slave labor with little resistance.
The American people would have never have let Roosevelt enter the war as it was a problem of Europe and Asia.
As much as Japan thought attacking the US fleet was to their advantage was the same mistake Hitler made attacking Russia.
Both brought in countries of vast resources to fight against them over extending their supply lines.
Had Hitler not attacked Russia much of Europe today would be under German rule the same with Japan in the South Pacific and Asia.
The major difference was Japan had manpower while Germany had technology.
When the war ended we found the German's had already developed a jet powered stealth fighter and were designing a bomber capable of fooling radar and with the range to deliver an atomic weapon on US soil.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horten_Ho_229
 
greybeard":38ucomj6 said:
Caustic Burno":38ucomj6 said:
There were two navies in place that threatened there empire building one at Pearl the other the British at Singapore both soundly defeated at the start of the war.
Not 'completely' true.
The Forgotten Fleet is forgotten again.

I am familiar with the fleet as my Dad served on the DE USS Pope named after the DD Pope sunk in the south Pacific.

USS Pope (DE-134) was an Edsall-class destroyer escort built for the U.S. Navy during World War II. She served in the Atlantic Ocean and provided destroyer escort protection against submarine and air attack for Navy vessels and convoys.
She was named after commodore John Pope, born 17 December 1798 in Sandwich, Massachusetts. This ship also commemorated the destroyer USS Pope (DD-225) that had been sunk in the Battle of the Java Sea in 1942. She was laid down by Consolidated Steel Co., Orange, Texas, 14 July 1942; launched 12 January 1943;
 

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