How do you test your hay to know its ready to bale?

[skyhightree1]

What method do you use and why?

 

[Bez__]

What method do you use and why?

I use both - because I do not trust either method alone

Bez

 

[ERNIBIGB]

Baler mounted moisture tester. Not very accurate but after using it a while it has become a very handy tool. I like to see it reading 14% but will still keep baling up close to 20%.

 

[chevytaHOE5674]

Neither, I use a scale and the microwave to do an "oven dry" method. Its one of the most accurate way to measure the moisture content of something. Takes a little bit of extra time but I know exactly what the hay is at so I can bale and sell with confidence in the moisture %.

Well I guess I do the "twist test" a little first to see if the hay is close to dry and then once I think its close I fire up the microwave.

 

[Craig Miller]

Ill ask the stupid questions i guess. Since ive never baled hay. What is the twist test and if you use a moisture meter at what percent do you bale. And im guessing this is after its layed down?

 

[Limomike]

When we baled out hay, we always used the twist method. Worked good for us. NOw that my neighbor does all our baling, he does the same thing.

 

[skyhightree1]

Ill ask the stupid questions i guess. Since ive never baled hay. What is the twist test and if you use a moisture meter at what percent do you bale. And im guessing this is after its layed down?

Craig here ya go i am not sure i could put it into words without confusing the H... out of you

Harvesting and storing forage at the proper moisture concentration is essential to producing a high-quality product. Ideally, hay forage should have a moisture concentration between 15 percent and 18 percent during baling. Hay baled at higher moisture levels is subject to heat damage, dry-matter loss, mold spoilage, and hay fires. See Hay Fire Prevention and Control, Virginia Cooperative Extension publication 442-105, for more information on hay fires. Protein and total digestible nutrient losses are increased for hay baled at lower moisture levels. Baling at the proper moisture level is critical to making quality hay, especially for larger bales (round and square) since moisture and heat dissipate more slowly in comparison to smaller bales.

Forage to be made into silage should have a moisture concentration between 40 percent and 85 percent prior to ensiling. Recommended ranges of moisture levels for various silage types are 70 percent to 85 percent for direct-cut silage, 60 percent to 70 percent for wilted silage, and 40 percent to 60 percent for low-moisture silage (haylage). Ensiling forage at higher moisture levels increases the risk of butyric acid formation (foul odor), which will reduce intake by livestock. In addition, ensiling high-moisture forage can increase dry matter loss, nutrient loss from seepage, and silo damage from silage effluent. Silage may undergo incomplete fermentation or be subject to heat damage and protein breakdown when forage is ensiled at lower moisture levels.

Accurately measuring forage moisture concentration requires that the forage be oven-dried under controlled conditions. This is a time consuming process that is usually performed in the laboratory. However, good estimates of forage moisture concentration can be made quickly and easily on the farm using the methods discussed in this publication.

Methods of Determining Moisture Concentration
Forage moisture concentration can be quickly estimated using one of three methods: the hand method, measurement with a moisture tester, and drying forage in a microwave.
Hand Method
The hand method, also known as the grab test or squeeze test, is a crude method to estimate forage moisture concentration. It also takes a lot of experience to perfect the technique needed to use this method. To approximate the moisture concentration of hay, take a handful of forage, twist it tightly, and release. Hay should not be baled if the forage is brittle and falls apart (too dry) or stays wadded up or slowly untwists (too wet). Hay that springs open and fluffs out upon release is at the right moisture concentration and is ready to be baled. If hay is too dry, wait until the humidity increases in the evening before baling.

The hand method is also used to estimate the moisture concentration of forage to be ensiled. Take a handful of chopped forage, squeeze it into a ball, and release. Chopped forage is too wet to ensile if the ball stays together and too dry if it quickly falls apart. Forage that slowly falls apart is ready to be ensiled. Table 1 contains more detailed guidelines for estimating forage moisture concentration using the hand method.

Table 1. Hand method for estimating forage moisture concentration for silage.
Characteristic of forage squeezed in hand Moisture (%)
Water is easily squeezed out and material holds shape > 80
Water can just be squeezed out and material holds shape 75 - 80
Little or no water can be squeezed out but material holds shape 70 - 75
No water can be squeezed out and material falls apart slowly 60 - 70
No water can be squeezed out and material falls apart rapidly < 60

Moisture Testers
Two types of forage moisture testers are available: one uses heat and the other measures electrical conductivity. Heat-type moisture testers consist of a heater/fan drying unit, a screen-bottomed sample container, and a simple spring scale (Figure 1). You can determine moisture concentration by filling the sample container with a fixed amount of wet forage and drying the forage to a constant dry matter percentage. The tester uses the weight difference between the wet forage and dry forage to determine the initial forage moisture concentration. Most heat-type moisture testers require 25 to 35 minutes per test.




Figure 1. Heat-type forage moisture tester and scale.


Electronic conductance moisture testers provide an instantaneous moisture concentration reading. Most electronic conductance testers have a sensing probe and a hand-held display unit (Figure 2). The electrical resistance of the forage is measured between two metal contacts at the tip of the probe when inserted into the forage. Testers determine forage moisture concentration based on the relationship between moisture concentration and electrical conductivity.




Figure 2. Electronic conductance moisture tester and probe.


Some electronic conductance moisture testers require several moisture readings from throughout a bale or windrow before averaging the values. Other testers require one or two moisture readings from a representative forage sample. Another type of electronic conductance moisture tester can be mounted to a baler to provide continuous moisture-concentration readings during baling. Note that both electronic conductance and heat-type moisture testers work best for baled hale and are not very accurate for determining moisture concentration of forage in a windrow.

Heat-type moisture testers tend to be more accurate than electronic conductance moisture testers, although results can be affected by many factors, including the effects of hay-drying agents. Either type of moisture tester can be purchased from agricultural supply houses, such as NASCO, for around $300.

Microwave Oven Method
The microwave oven method provides reasonably accurate forage moisture results in a relatively short time. Although this method takes about 20 minutes to complete, the measured moisture concentration is much more accurate than those from electronic conductance moisture testers.

Before using the microwave oven method, obtain the following items:

Microwave oven
Scale (must weigh in grams)
Microwave-safe plate
10- to 12-ounce cup of water (a coffee mug works best)
Pencil and paper
Use the following procedure for the best results:

1.Obtain a representative forage sample (whole plant material).
2.Cut the sample into 1-inch pieces; keep leaves and stems uniformly mixed.
3.Place a paper towel on the plate.
4.Weigh the plate and record it as "plate weight."
5.Add approximately 100 grams of the forage sample to the plate; spread the sample as uniformly as possible.
6.Weigh the plate with the forage sample and record it as "initial weight."
7.Place the cup of water in the corner of the oven to capture unabsorbed microwaves as the plant tissue dries.
8.Place the sample on the plate in the center of the oven.
9.Set the oven on HIGH for 3 minutes* and "cook" the sample.
10.Remove the sample and plate, weigh them, and record the weight.
11.Change the water in the cup to prevent the water from boiling over.
12.Set the oven on HIGH for 2 minutes* and "recook" the sample.
13.Remove the sample and plate, weigh them, and record the weight.
14.Repeat steps 7 through 10 until the weight does not change more than 1 gram (this means the sample is dry); record as "final weight."
15.Use the following equation to determine the percent of moisture of the forage sample:
Percent moisture (%) =
(Initial weight - Final weight) x 100
Initial weight - Plate weight

*Make sure to heat samples in short intervals to prevent the forage from igniting.

Summary
Baling or ensiling forage at the proper moisture concentration can reduce both harvest and storage losses to provide a high-quality feed. Forage moisture concentration can be quickly estimated on the farm using one of three methods: the hand method, moisture testers, or the microwave-oven method. The hand method is fast, but is only a crude approximation of forage moisture concentration. Two types of moisture testers are available to determine forage moisture concentration. Heat-type testers provide good estimations of moisture concentration, but require 25 to 35 minutes of operation. Electronic conductance moisture testers provide an instantaneous moisture concentration reading; however, the readings are often less accurate than those from heat-type moisture testers. The microwave-oven method requires approximately 30 minutes and provides relatively accurate results. No matter which method you choose, use a good representative sample of the

 

[Craig Miller]

Thanks sky. I normally buy my hay so never had to bale. Sorry for the highjack

 

[skyhightree1]

Thanks sky. I normally buy my hay so never had to bale. Sorry for the highjack

CM you are welcome no highjack thats a good question. I am sure others were thinking it but you just were brave enough to ask lol. :tiphat: IMO you are not missing much baling hay was fun when I first started now its a P.I.T.A.

 

[NWMoAngus]

Been putting up hay or feeding it every day of my 60 years, it seems. Use the twist test on alfalfa only. Grass hay will be ready next day if the sun shines at all. It is easier to put it up too dry, than too moist here in the western corn belt/mid-south. Thank God for large round balers.

 

[sim.-ang.king]

My grass hay is like NWMoAngus', cut one day, bale the next. Usually by the time the weather is clear of rain it's 90 degrees and the winds blowing. Drys it too fast sometimes.

 

[skyhightree1]

My grass hay is like NWMoAngus', cut one day, bale the next. Usually by the time the weather is clear of rain it's 90 degrees and the winds blowing. Drys it too fast sometimes.

ditto

 

[James T]

The microwave oven test works very well and a digital scale is cheap. While the moisture level is very important the nutrient content of what your baling might is even more important. Just because the grass is green means nothing. Hay bales out the gate means nutrients out the gate too. Test your hay and see what you've got!

 

[Lucky22]

Sky, thank you so much for all that information, :help: I am just now starting on working my own hay ( sq bails ) and need all the help I can get. Now all I need is the weather to stay dry for we have had rain. Thanks again

 

[Kscattle]

Been putting up hay or feeding it every day of my 60 years, it seems. Use the twist test on alfalfa only. Grass hay will be ready next day if the sun shines at all. It is easier to put it up too dry, than too moist here in the western corn belt/mid-south. Thank God for large round balers.

Are you crimping your grass hay or laying it flat with a disk mower or sickle mower? I've been laying it flat and letting it lay for a day then rake/bale on 3rd day. I've often thought it was dry on 2nd day but I never baled it that quick for fear of bales getting hot. 2 years ago in the drought I think I could've mowed/baled same day.

 

[Nesikep]

I do a twist test... Around here with heavy cuts (up to 4 ton /ac) alfalfa/clover/grass mix we need about 4 days in the 90F range to get a winrow dry, or a couple overcast days with a nice breeze is even better. around here you have to wait until the hay is too dry, then bale at night to get some moisture back into it... I usually spend some time in the evenings with the cows and calves in a T shirt, when I feel a chill, I start baling and that has worked very well for me. I usually work to put as much hay as I can in a bale, and usually get my square bales to about 80-90 lbs, depending on the grass content. The stacker wagon works far better when I have 90 lb bales than 60 lb bales, and I get more into the shed.

 

[skyhightree1]

Sky, thank you so much for all that information, :help: I am just now starting on working my own hay ( sq bails ) and need all the help I can get. Now all I need is the weather to stay dry for we have had rain. Thanks again

yw sorry I been knee deep in hay and missed this. I hope you have had luck with your hay. I can't do square bales they wear me out and I would be putting up about 50k a year lol