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Some figures I have seen in the past shows a hay barn will pay for itself in about 10 years in hay savings and hay quality. Plus USDA I think still has hay storage loans at 2% if you need a loan to build it.It has been running between $7.50-9 a bale here to get it wrapped and that was before wrap prices went up. Also with dry hay you will get some molding that occurs. IMO there is no way it would pay or would I wrap dry hay. Build a barn to store it in and be money ahead without the mess to clean up.
I wrapped some dry hay and had hay moisture collect on the OD under the wrap. Later read you should wait 1 to 2 weeks before wrapping dry hay. Seem awkward?It has been running between $7.50-9 a bale here to get it wrapped and that was before wrap prices went up. Also with dry hay you will get some molding that occurs.
Depends on hay quality and what it's fed to, I'm guessing those figures apply to dairy farmers and not beef cattle.Some figures I have seen in the past shows a hay barn will pay for itself in about 10 years in hay savings and hay quality. Plus USDA I think still has hay storage loans at 2% if you need a loan to build it.
I'm not sure but it was from Virginia Extension and they are pretty good at separating out the dairy info.Depends on hay quality and what it's fed to, I'm guessing those figures apply to dairy farmers and not beef cattle.
We wrap as much of our dry 5x6 hay as we can with a diameter wrapper. We figured it cost us about $1.75-$2 a bale in wrap, but saved about $8-410 forth of hay not spoiled. You will still get a little rot on the bottom and a little condensation just under the wrap, but not nearly as much spoilage as an unwrapped bale. You need to have hay dried properly when baling it, as dry or dryer as you would small square bales. You only need 2 to 3 layers, enough to keep stems from poking thru and to shed water. Baleage wrappers put almost .25" of wrap on a bale. Also, our baler only does twine. We get a lot of rain in the fall in the Northeast. It works for us.Does anyone have experience with wrapping dry hay? About how much would it cost to hire it done if you had the hay sitting there ready for them? I had a guy tell me he wraps almost all of his hay that he bales in the summer with the intent of selling it in the late winter. He has a wrapper and sells hay by the ton. Said the weight saved from rot in that 6-8 month period was well worth the plastic and labor. Thoughts?
Yes the guy I talked to said to let it sit out for 1-2 weeks and then wrap it. Gives it time to dry out a little more. That time needs to be hot and sunny of course.I wrapped some dry hay and had hay moisture collect on the OD under the wrap. Later read you should wait 1 to 2 weeks before wrapping dry hay. Seem awkward?
Any idea what causes the net to deteriorate under a structure? Exposure to UV? Do you live close to the coast?In my climate the net wrap will deteriorate some even under a structure so about three years is about all you want to keep.
The JD net wrap is lighter than others. You do get more on a roll than most others. So I often put more wraps on than with others. Every baler I've had performed better it seems with the JD wrap. I typically put 2-3 wraps on grass and 3-4 on haygrazer depending on how stalky it is. But if I'm thinking I'm gonna be putting the hay back for next season I will put a couple extra wraps. I figure it cost me around .50 cents a wrap.Any idea what causes the net to deteriorate under a structure? Exposure to UV? Do you live close to the coast?
The majority of my hay is stored outside, I put 3 wraps of Vermeer net wrap on and it's still in good shape after 2 winter's worth of storage - never kept any longer than that. I've used JD net before (also 3 wraps) and had trouble with it tearing at ground contact going into the 2nd winter. I can also rip it with my hands on the sides/top at that point, but can't do that with the Vermeer. FWIW, my baler likes the JD wrap better as it shears easier and I get less snap-backs at the net knife.
Yup, pricewise the JD and Vermeer are comparable when you consider length per roll. This past year, it cost me $1.45/bale for 3 wraps of Vermeer. I just bought wrap for next year, and with the price increase it's going to be $1.58/bale.The JD net wrap is lighter than others. You do get more on a roll than most others. So I often put more wraps on than with others. Every baler I've had performed better it seems with the JD wrap. I typically put 2-3 wraps on grass and 3-4 on haygrazer depending on how stalky it is. But if I'm thinking I'm gonna be putting the hay back for next season I will put a couple extra wraps. I figure it cost me around .50 cents a wrap.
That looks good do you have a picture of the wrapper you use? All the individual wrappers I see spin and wrap all the way around including the ends. I always thought you had to do an inline to get them that wayWe wrap as much of our dry 5x6 hay as we can with a diameter wrapper. We figured it cost us about $1.75-$2 a bale in wrap, but saved about $8-410 forth of hay not spoiled. You will still get a little rot on the bottom and a little condensation just under the wrap, but not nearly as much spoilage as an unwrapped bale. You need to have hay dried properly when baling it, as dry or dryer as you would small square bales. You only need 2 to 3 layers, enough to keep stems from poking thru and to shed water. Baleage wrappers put almost .25" of wrap on a bale. Also, our baler only does twine. We get a lot of rain in the fall in the Northeast. It works for us.
I think Knervland sells new 3pt units for around $5000.
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That looks good do you have a picture of the wrapper you use? All the individual wrappers I see spin and wrap all the way around including the ends. I always thought you had to do an inline to get them that way
Long video but worth the time.
We have a JD 530 baler. It makes pretty decent bales. We can adjust the tension to make tighter bales. We have the bale monitor which helps. Hard to find the bale monitors though. We were going to buy another used 530 but it didn't have a monitor. Some of our neighbors think we're crazy making those big 5x6 bales. But for storing outside, the bigger the better.Thanks @callmefence, I learnt something but thankfully not super far from their advice. My biggest issue is tight bales. I have a 1983 Deere 530, no bale trak so doing it all by touch and feel. One day I'll be rich enough to upgrade, but for now it's good enough.