Bull selection!

[Charbrangus]

75% of my cows have ears. I keep every brindle heifer that is raised. I sold my bull last week at the auction (weighed 2285 pounds) and am going to pick up a Simmental Bull Tuesday to replace him with. Hope to get all black calved and less ear.

 

[Travlr]

I love a mealy-mouthed ... cow,

Mealy-mouthed?

What does that mean? I know what a mealy mouthed human is, but never heard the term applied to a cow.

 

[Warren Allison]

by do over I meant if I could go back(and I can't) I'd have bought a homo black. We just assumed the sim angus bull would be because the cow was black and the bull was black he was out of. I like him a lot but would prefer to have a better chance at all black babies since about half of the cows are colored. We are retaining a few of the better heifers out of the better cows and this year we will likely be swapping out bulls. He does make a nice calf, this one of the red ones and is out of an old longhorn cross cow that is kind of brown and has a white face and always has great babies

When you swap out this year, could you get an angus or PP BB Simm bull then?

 

[Brute 23]

If you put a wild-color Braunvieh bull in there, almost every one of those red cows - and some of the blacks - will give you brindles.
I love a mealy-mouthed brindle cow, but my brindle & 'wild-color' Braunvieh-cross steers never brought what they were truly worth.

It's funny but there are actually quite a few Braunvieh bulls running around in Falfurrias. There use to be a lot of dairies around there and I guess some people still use them. They do good, health wise, down there. I'm not sure about price.

 

[Jeanne - Simme Valley]

The ASA has a Simmental heart tolerant program (correct me if I'm wrong @Jeanne - Simme Valley). I'm not sure the details on it.

I'm not sure what you are talking about?? OH - just got it - HEAT tolerant program. Hmm - I don't know.

 

[Jeanne - Simme Valley]

Blew him out and did a little clipping on him.

 

[Travlr]

Blew him out and did a little clipping on him.

If he puts calves on the ground that follow his visual traits and weigh at weaning he would be a hard bull to beat. That's a very nice animal.

 

[Jeanne - Simme Valley]

10 months old and weighed 1275# this morning.

 

[Warren Allison]

10 months old and weighed 1275# this morning.

This is the one you are showing in Louisville for the guy that bought him from you? And he told you to sell him? This bull would be ideal for the 3 or 4 people on here, with threads this week about needing a BB black bull. Between this one, the one you posted you used as a clean-up this year, and the 2 that Simm sold to Kenny and Clinch, I have really evaluated my 50+ yr old feelings about Simm bulls. Always liked Simm cows, but those few years I spent helping people pull calves, and often cut out calves, from those 800lb ln Angus and Herefords everyone had around here back then, put a bad taste in my mouth for Simm, and Charolais, bulls. If we sill had them, I think I would be open to using a PP BB Simm on our Corrientes next year. Some of those guys needing bulls...the ones from south east Texas and Florida, and I think there is one from LA , have expressed concerns about heat. and have gotten some bad advice from folks concerning that. But since I was a boy, Angus have outnumbered all other breeds combined here and elsewhere in the South. I'd be willing to bet that if any of those guys bought this young bull (or one like him) about now, the bull would be fully acclimated and do just fine down here next summer.

 

[Jeanne - Simme Valley]

Yes, I was asked about him aclimating to the heat. He was slick haired all summer. Dam and Grandam also slick. I have sold many cattle into Texas and other Southern states with never a problem. Maybe because I have used AI forever.

 

[Warren Allison]

Yes, I was asked about him aclimating to the heat. He was slick haired all summer. Dam and Grandam also slick. I have sold many cattle into Texas and other Southern states with never a problem. Maybe because I have used AI forever.

Growing up, 70-75% of the cattle around here were Angus. 70-75% today are still black cattle, but a LOT of them , if not Brangus, are Simm and SimmAngus.

 

[AldacoCattle]

10 months old and weighed 1275# this morning.

Just out of curiosity around how much does a bull like that cost?

 

[Jeanne - Simme Valley]

Just out of curiosity around how much does a bull like that cost?

Asking $5800

 

[Travlr]

10 months old and weighed 1275# this morning.

By my calculations that's over four pounds a day. You must have been feeding him blue whale milk replacer...

Any idea what he will mature at?

 

[Jeanne - Simme Valley]

Last calf work up, he had a 4.2# WPDA.
Evidently his 2 yr old dam was pretty potent.
He and dam were each getting 3# shell corn and 3# pellets a day. Not being pushed.

 

[Silver]

Probably shouldn't hijack this thread with this so I apologize in advance.
This is one of the little guys I bought this afternoon. I don't have the current weight on him but he was 952 lbs at 8 months, so he should be nearly 1,200 today at 10 months.

 

[Travlr]

Best I ever did was a 205 day calf that went 825, which deducting his birth weight put him at 3 1/2 pounds a day.

That was all grass and mother's milk.

 

[Ky hills]

Heaviest I've had was a Charolais bull calf that weighed 900 at around 10 months

 

[Stonewall Joe]

When you swap out this year, could you get an angus or PP BB Simm bull then?

I plan on swapping out, I'd prefer a pure bred Sim with a white face but I may settle for a good angus bull. I'll start looking soon

 

[Warren Allison]

I plan on swapping out, I'd prefer a pure bred Sim with a white face but I may settle for a good angus bull. I'll start looking soon

Did you see that one that @Jeanne - Simme Valley posted above?