ALACOWMAN
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Same breed crosses,but different percentages..gerts 3/8 5/8 ..DM looks like they're 50/50..
How do the beef master bulls crossed with angus and black baldies come out looking like do they have the floppy skin and big ears that hurts the price of the calf in our part of the world. Kentucky I mean.Ky hills said:From what I have seen of them here in Ky which isn't a lot, they look consistent with the ranges of most others size wise. I bought a Beefmaster bull a couple years ago, the fellow showed us his cows as well and they looked to me to be no bigger framed than our average Herefords. Those cows were more moderate framed than the few Santa Gertrudis we have. We have one Beefmaster cow that probably weighs between 1400-1500 and she always weans off one of the heaviest calves.
76 Bar said:Is poor udder suspension and teats common with Beef Masters?
Cress27 said:How do the beef master bulls crossed with angus and black baldies come out looking like do they have the floppy skin and big ears that hurts the price of the calf in our part of the world. Kentucky I mean.Ky hills said:From what I have seen of them here in Ky which isn't a lot, they look consistent with the ranges of most others size wise. I bought a Beefmaster bull a couple years ago, the fellow showed us his cows as well and they looked to me to be no bigger framed than our average Herefords. Those cows were more moderate framed than the few Santa Gertrudis we have. We have one Beefmaster cow that probably weighs between 1400-1500 and she always weans off one of the heaviest calves.
Cress27 said:How do the beef master bulls crossed with angus and black baldies come out looking like do they have the floppy skin and big ears that hurts the price of the calf in our part of the world. Kentucky I mean.Ky hills said:From what I have seen of them here in Ky which isn't a lot, they look consistent with the ranges of most others size wise. I bought a Beefmaster bull a couple years ago, the fellow showed us his cows as well and they looked to me to be no bigger framed than our average Herefords. Those cows were more moderate framed than the few Santa Gertrudis we have. We have one Beefmaster cow that probably weighs between 1400-1500 and she always weans off one of the heaviest calves.
bird dog said:Cress. You might be better off breeding Charolais. With Beefmasters you will have some calves with some ear, some will not have much but enough will that your average will not be better than something that produces big calves with no Brahman influence.
Ky hills said:
Cress27 said:bird dog said:Cress. You might be better off breeding Charolais. With Beefmasters you will have some calves with some ear, some will not have much but enough will that your average will not be better than something that produces big calves with no Brahman influence.
I agree I've just heard horror stories about big calves and where I just bought a farm and needing the calf's on the ground to make the payment just scares me a little
I have had a few of that cross.Ky hills said:
Ky hills said:Cress27 said:bird dog said:Cress. You might be better off breeding Charolais. With Beefmasters you will have some calves with some ear, some will not have much but enough will that your average will not be better than something that produces big calves with no Brahman influence.
I agree I've just heard horror stories about big calves and where I just bought a farm and needing the calf's on the ground to make the payment just scares me a little
I used to have registered Charolais, hard to beat them for growth. they can be relatively easy calving or some can be nightmares. As bad as it pains me to say it, all in all hard to beat a good Angus bull. They are usually good calving and lively calves, do sacrifice some growth but a live calf is worth a lot more than a dead one. We use Herefords quite a bit too because we like the overall disposition of them best, and the ones we have used have calved very comparable to Angus with a little more growth. The ridiculous Hereford dock at the market negates the positives though.