Be careful what you say to your doctor...

[D2Cat]

Someone has to be responsible for making the government aware of mentally ill people. So if you're having a checkup and your Dr. casually ask how you feeling, they want to know if you're depressed. They may ask you directly. Mine did. "Have you ever thought of hurting yourself"...right out of the blue. Kinda startled me.

If you jokingly respond in a way that gets their attention you can be on the short list of, "are you stable enough to have guns".

The government wants us disarmed, one way or another. Don't fall into their trap!

 

[Williamsv]

During my physical last summer, the nurse had some papers from my insurance company to fill out. One of the questions was asking if I was depressed and did I ever have thoughts of harming myself. I wondered what that was all about, as I had never been asked before. Thank goodness I said no. You have to watch every thing now and think before you answer. Who would have ever thought about gun control. The government is trying to control every part of our lives now. It is sad.

 

[greybeard]

During my physical last summer, the nurse had some papers from my insurance company to fill out. One of the questions was asking if I was depressed and did I ever have thoughts of harming myself. I wondered what that was all about, as I had never been asked before. Thank goodness I said no. You have to watch every thing now and think before you answer. Who would have ever thought about gun control. The government is trying to control every part of our lives now. It is sad.

Went thru the same questionnaire when I signed up for physical therapy in December.
Don't worry about it. Just answer honestly and nothing bad will ever ever happen--answering the questions is mandatory so you have nothing at all to worry about.

 

[boondocks]

During my physical last summer, the nurse had some papers from my insurance company to fill out. One of the questions was asking if I was depressed and did I ever have thoughts of harming myself. I wondered what that was all about, as I had never been asked before. Thank goodness I said no. You have to watch every thing now and think before you answer. Who would have ever thought about gun control. The government is trying to control every part of our lives now. It is sad.

Keep in mind that health care providers may actually be, ya know, trying to keep someone from hurting themselves. We are dealing with a situation right now where my college son has a roommate who has mentally deteriorated and become very unstable. One of the other young men in the house had the foresight to go and take away his gun, and I am glad he did. I wish the young man's health care providers would take his state of mind more seriously, in this instance. (He has threatened suicide and we have told our son to make a hotline call if he does it again).

Please do also remember that the argument against gun control, even in light of the many mass shootings we have had, is that it's mental health issues (not guns per se) that cause much of the gun violence, and so in lieu of gun control for all, we ought to pay more attention to those that are mentally troubled or delusional. Are you now saying that we shouldn't do that either? Do you really think it's a good idea for mentally unstable citizens to have unfettered access to guns? I am a gun-owner, as is my family, but sure wish someone had recognized Adam Lanza's mental issues before he killed a bunch of little kids in cold blood.

 

[True Grit Farms]

I am a gun-owner, as is my family, but sure wish someone had recognized Adam Lanza's mental issues before he killed a bunch of little kids in cold blood.[/quote]

I don't believe Adam killed anyone, it was all staged. IMO The mental issues can be slowed way down by not letting killers hide behind the mentally insane charges. If someone is convicted of murder, that person needs to be put to death, ASAP. To me ASAP means the day they are convicted feed them their last meal laced with Temik or a bullet to the brain. Being crazy is no excuse for living if you're a murderer.

 

[boondocks]

I am a gun-owner, as is my family, but sure wish someone had recognized Adam Lanza's mental issues before he killed a bunch of little kids in cold blood.

I don't believe Adam killed anyone, it was all staged. IMO The mental issues can be slowed way down by not letting killers hide behind the mentally insane charges. If someone is convicted of murder, that person needs to be put to death, ASAP. To me ASAP means the day they are convicted feed them their last meal laced with Temik or a bullet to the brain. Being crazy is no excuse for living if you're a murderer.[/quote]

Wow. Just....wow. You're just trolling, right? I hope? (Do you think aliens descended and killed those poor tykes and their teachers, or what?)

As for your "solution", you have a logic flaw. Crime is linked to mens rea, or intent. One has to have the mental capacity to know that doing something (let's say "X") is wrong; the ability to conform their behavior to meet the law (not do "X"); and yet go ahead and violate the law by doing "X." Where someone is off-their-rocker insane, proving the above gets tricky, as you might imagine. I have zero problem with the death penalty, when it is fairly applied, but you need to have the right to appeal. This is all the more important now that we have DNA testing that has fully exonerated some people who had spent decades in jail for crimes they didn't commit.

 

[boondocks]

http://fusion.net/story/209335/ronald-r ... l-opinion/

 

[hurleyjd]

I am a gun-owner, as is my family, but sure wish someone had recognized Adam Lanza's mental issues before he killed a bunch of little kids in cold blood.

I don't believe Adam killed anyone, it was all staged. IMO The mental issues can be slowed way down by not letting killers hide behind the mentally insane charges. If someone is convicted of murder, that person needs to be put to death, ASAP. To me ASAP means the day they are convicted feed them their last meal laced with Temik or a bullet to the brain. Being crazy is no excuse for living if you're a murderer.[/quote]

Could be by your statement that you should be denied any guns or access to them. You might need to find a professional some where for some serious counseling.

 

[sim.-ang.king]

but sure wish someone had recognized Adam Lanza's mental issues before he killed a bunch of little kids in cold blood.

Maybe they should of checked his medication?
Those psychoactive drugs a lot of the mass shooter were on can really fry your brain, and sometimes create a false reality, if they are not kept in checked.

 

[True Grit Farms]

http://fusion.net/story/209335/ronald-reagan-gun-control-editorial-opinion/

Look up, The Sandy Hook hoax and read or watch with an open mind. I get an ugly picture everytime I open your link.

I feel like you have to be crazy to kill someone in cold blood. Normal people don't murder other people, it's just that simple to me. Lawyers and doctors are in the business of making money and being mentally challenged is where the money is. Look at all the kids with ADD, ADHD and all the other crap kids are diagnosed with. I still feel very few people are mentally handicapped, and most use that as an excuse.

 

[TexasBred]

I am a gun-owner, as is my family, but sure wish someone had recognized Adam Lanza's mental issues before he killed a bunch of little kids in cold blood.

I don't believe Adam killed anyone, it was all staged. IMO The mental issues can be slowed way down by not letting killers hide behind the mentally insane charges. If someone is convicted of murder, that person needs to be put to death, ASAP. To me ASAP means the day they are convicted feed them their last meal laced with Temik or a bullet to the brain. Being crazy is no excuse for living if you're a murderer.[/quote]
You're a sick SOB in case you noone has told you lately.

 

[True Grit Farms]

TB, that's the first time today. Sick is OK, crazy will get your guns taken away.

 

[cowboy43]

I am 71 and this good looking 20 year old nurse asks me how often I have sex, you think I am going to tell her the truth, ain't no way.

 

[bbirder]

I am 71 and this good looking 20 year old nurse asks me how often I have sex, you think I am going to tell her the truth, ain't no way.

:lol: :clap: :lol: :clap: :lol: :clap: :lol:

I'm with you on that one Cowboy!

 

[JMJ Farms]

I feel like you have to be crazy to kill someone in cold blood. Normal people don't murder other people, it's just that simple to me. Lawyers and doctors are in the business of making money and being mentally challenged is where the money is. Look at all the kids with ADD, ADHD and all the other crap kids are diagnosed with. I still feel very few people are mentally handicapped, and most use that as an excuse.

I have to agree.

As for your "solution", you have a logic flaw. Crime is linked to mens rea, or intent. One has to have the mental capacity to know that doing something (let's say "X") is wrong; the ability to conform their behavior to meet the law (not do "X"); and yet go ahead and violate the law by doing "X." Where someone is off-their-rocker insane, proving the above gets tricky, as you might imagine. I have zero problem with the death penalty, when it is fairly applied, but you need to have the right to appeal. This is all the more important now that we have DNA testing that has fully exonerated some people who had spent decades in jail for crimes they didn't commit.

And I believe there are very very very very few people who don't know right from wrong. I don't believe a person can get to the age of 10,11,12 without knowing right from wrong. If they are incapable of knowing right from wrong then I believe they are incapable of being able to execute a murder or mass murder. When you point a gun at someone and pull the trigger in cold blood.... You know you're wrong.

 

[SJB]

During my physical last summer, the nurse had some papers from my insurance company to fill out. One of the questions was asking if I was depressed and did I ever have thoughts of harming myself. I wondered what that was all about, as I had never been asked before. Thank goodness I said no. You have to watch every thing now and think before you answer. Who would have ever thought about gun control. The government is trying to control every part of our lives now. It is sad.

Keep in mind that health care providers may actually be, ya know, trying to keep someone from hurting themselves. We are dealing with a situation right now where my college son has a roommate who has mentally deteriorated and become very unstable. One of the other young men in the house had the foresight to go and take away his gun, and I am glad he did. I wish the young man's health care providers would take his state of mind more seriously, in this instance. (He has threatened suicide and we have told our son to make a hotline call if he does it again).

Please do also remember that the argument against gun control, even in light of the many mass shootings we have had, is that it's mental health issues (not guns per se) that cause much of the gun violence, and so in lieu of gun control for all, we ought to pay more attention to those that are mentally troubled or delusional. Are you now saying that we shouldn't do that either? Do you really think it's a good idea for mentally unstable citizens to have unfettered access to guns? I am a gun-owner, as is my family, but sure wish someone had recognized Adam Lanza's mental issues before he killed a bunch of little kids in cold blood.

The problem is, who gets to decide who's crazy enough to have their 2nd amendment right revoked?

I believe we were better off when we put people in nervous hospitals instead of turning them loose. Crazy and on drugs that they may or may not take is a bad situation.

 

[greybeard]

And I believe there are very very very very few people who don't know right from wrong. I don't believe a person can get to the age of 10,11,12 without knowing right from wrong. If they are incapable of knowing right from wrong then I believe they are incapable of being able to execute a murder or mass murder. When you point a gun at someone and pull the trigger in cold blood.... You know you're wrong.

I once told one of my bosses that the "voices in my head told me to stay home and clean and load the guns". That was years ago.

In today's PC climate, that would not play well.
On my physical therapy questionnaire, I just wrote "N/A" off to the side--Not applicable. Mandatory or not, they're more interested in getting my $$$$/month than whether "mommy didn't hug me and daddy didn't love me" type things.

 

[Commercialfarmer]

Is this the same federal government that is supposed to be doing some fancy job of monitoring the terrorists... I mean refugees its inviting in by the millions?

Seems it has its hands pretty full trying to prevent investigations into the 41 plots of terror that local institutions have busted. Probably need a whole new three lettered department with a name that makes you feel real safe.

There are piles of forms you have to sign to get a tooth pulled, because health records are private and should be private. But some of you want the federal government and many many people to have open access to some of your most sensitive information. No way!

A GP is not a psychiatrist or mental health specialist in any form. They can't make a serious call by asking a couple ridiculously simple questions.

.gov cannot save you from the idiot loon. You need to be ready to protect yourself.
And more importantly, if the media treated every shooting like they do the ones in Chicago, there would be almost zero copy cat killers. And these loons wouldn't be trying to make names for themselves.

You want to talk about gun violence? How many shooting's occurred in Chicago in 2015? Currently the total is figured to be 2995. There were over 500 homicides. How many of those almost 3 THOUSAND shootings did you hear about for weeks and weeks?. Do you think Detroit is any better?

If you want to know about likelyhood to kill, I've got some better questions to ask.
Do you live in a city with strict gun control laws?
Did the majority of the citizens in your city or county vote for the President?
Do you have an Obama phone?
Do you qualify for assistance?
If a ho talks back while you are wit yo boyz, is it gud form to b#tch slap her?
How much is quarter oz?

 

[JMJ Farms]

CF is right. The media plays a huge role in stirring the pot.

 

[slick4591]

Our lives are nothing more than some checked boxes to be scrutinized by someone employed by a government agency.