Northern Rancher":1jc7i57f said:There might be quite a good bull under the fat but in that condition he wouldn't get from one side of the pasture to the other. He better have good marbling because he's in kill shape. I'd like to see him coming out of about 50 cows-we know how he performed in a feedlot situation then we could see how he does on the playing field. He did post good numbers-there's alot of fat bulls don't do that even.
Northern Rancher":2mof7d1i said:There might be quite a good bull under the fat but in that condition he wouldn't get from one side of the pasture to the other. He better have good marbling because he's in kill shape. I'd like to see him coming out of about 50 cows-we know how he performed in a feedlot situation then we could see how he does on the playing field. He did post good numbers-there's alot of fat bulls don't do that even.
I was thinking of what he'd look like after 60 days in a 5,000 acre pasture with a dozen other bulls...If his feet hold up....I'm convinced that much of the foot problems we see in bulls anymore comes about because they were pushed way to hard (butcher fat) that first year of their growth on creep and hot feed..I'd like to see him coming out of about 50 cows
theres the predicament aint it,,, good bull :cowboy:Dusty":38ghogx6 said:Also, last time I went to a bull sale, thin bulls don't sell good, you as both purebred breeders and commercial breeders buy the bulls that are sound, functional and want those bulls who did the best against their cont. groups.... even if they are a little hefty... (even tackles need loving just as Nate..)
But the bull passed a semen test before he was a year old and was able to freeze semen before his 13 month birthday on his first attempt, and yes while he was in production we have taken weight off of him and his muscle volume just exploded ... but if he is like his sire, he will gain weight on pasteur... he is going to naturally bred about 12 head for me this summer.... C
Dusty":azgf5cn9 said:Also, last time I went to a bull sale, thin bulls don't sell good, you as both purebred breeders and commercial breeders buy the bulls that are sound, functional and want those bulls who did the best against their cont. groups.... even if they are a little hefty... (even tackles need loving just as Nate..)
There is a difference between thin and fat. Fat bulls don't do well when they have to travel and breed cows
But the bull passed a semen test before he was a year old and was able to freeze semen before his 13 month birthday on his first attempt, and yes while he was in production we have taken weight off of him and his muscle volume just exploded ... but if he is like his sire, he will gain weight on pasteur... he is going to naturally bred about 12 head for me this summer.... C