Bestoutwest
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Ran across this today, thought I'd share.
https://www.angus.org/performance/foots ... poster.pdf
https://www.angus.org/performance/foots ... poster.pdf
tnfarmboy67":14duxpjh said:They also released some of the foot score research epd's. http://www.angus.org/nce/documents/Foot ... 013018.pdf
1 Animals must be scored prior to hoof trimming.
SPH":3n13n0t7 said:This line right here is concerning that it even has to be mentioned as a criteria:
1 Animals must be scored prior to hoof trimming.
I would assume most non-show ring folks here are not hoof trimming their cattle and if you are I am guessing that it is because they are scoring over the ideal "5" that chart shows. You shouldn't have a need for hoof trimming if you are breeding structurally sound cattle.
Elkwc what operations are you talking about and where are you located? I buy my bulls and use both Angus and Hereford, there's a good possibility that you just might be able to save me a lot of problems down the road.elkwc":1i0sb7kr said:I know of certain cattle from certain breeders who have to have their bulls trimmed on a regular basis. A vet is this area says the new wing to his clinic was paid for by trimming cattle from a certain prominent breeder. I've seen many of these cattle. The breeders paid good money for the bulls so felt the need to use them. All they are doing is spreading the issue if they retain any heifers. I had a chance to buy a 2 y/o last spring that was purchased as a high dollar yearling at another prominent sale. He had been trimmed some. I have seen it in both Polled Herefords and Angus. Although it has been worse in Angus but that maybe cause I see several from that one outfit in this area. When I was looking at one bull he was gimping a little. I mentioned it and the breeder stated that was because the hoof trimmer got him a little short when he was there earlier in the week. This was a bull being sold for a commercial bull not a show bull. Needless to say that killed that sale. And otherwise he was a good bull.
That will fix the foot issue. I think some people just enjoy working with problems.Ebenezer":3p4vj5fn said:Hooves that need to be trimmed should be trimmed immediately behind the scull. :shock:
True Grit Farms":12iwc08m said:Elkwc what operations are you talking about and where are you located? I buy my bulls and use both Angus and Hereford, there's a good possibility that you just might be able to save me a lot of problems down the road.elkwc":12iwc08m said:I know of certain cattle from certain breeders who have to have their bulls trimmed on a regular basis. A vet is this area says the new wing to his clinic was paid for by trimming cattle from a certain prominent breeder. I've seen many of these cattle. The breeders paid good money for the bulls so felt the need to use them. All they are doing is spreading the issue if they retain any heifers. I had a chance to buy a 2 y/o last spring that was purchased as a high dollar yearling at another prominent sale. He had been trimmed some. I have seen it in both Polled Herefords and Angus. Although it has been worse in Angus but that maybe cause I see several from that one outfit in this area. When I was looking at one bull he was gimping a little. I mentioned it and the breeder stated that was because the hoof trimmer got him a little short when he was there earlier in the week. This was a bull being sold for a commercial bull not a show bull. Needless to say that killed that sale. And otherwise he was a good bull.
Thanks, Vince
True Grit Farms":16wdgli2 said:That will fix the foot issue. I think some people just enjoy working with problems.Ebenezer":16wdgli2 said:Hooves that need to be trimmed should be trimmed immediately behind the scull. :shock:
I would also love to know if you don't mind sharing the information with me.elkwc":30iycxdj said:True Grit Farms":30iycxdj said:Elkwc what operations are you talking about and where are you located? I buy my bulls and use both Angus and Hereford, there's a good possibility that you just might be able to save me a lot of problems down the road.elkwc":30iycxdj said:I know of certain cattle from certain breeders who have to have their bulls trimmed on a regular basis. A vet is this area says the new wing to his clinic was paid for by trimming cattle from a certain prominent breeder. I've seen many of these cattle. The breeders paid good money for the bulls so felt the need to use them. All they are doing is spreading the issue if they retain any heifers. I had a chance to buy a 2 y/o last spring that was purchased as a high dollar yearling at another prominent sale. He had been trimmed some. I have seen it in both Polled Herefords and Angus. Although it has been worse in Angus but that maybe cause I see several from that one outfit in this area. When I was looking at one bull he was gimping a little. I mentioned it and the breeder stated that was because the hoof trimmer got him a little short when he was there earlier in the week. This was a bull being sold for a commercial bull not a show bull. Needless to say that killed that sale. And otherwise he was a good bull.
Thanks, Vince
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