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Southeastern Calves Still Improving

For decades, cattle from the southeastern U.S. have sold at a discount compared to cattle from the Midwest. Data says they deserve better, according to a beef cattle specialist with Certified Angus Beef LLC. Earlier this month, Gary Fike presented on feedlot performance and carcass traits at the Southern Section meetings of the American Society of Animal Science (ASAS) in Orlando, Fla.

An eight-year study shows that a higher percentage of Angus-type calves from the Southeast qualified for the Certified Angus Beef ® brand. That could be due to an age difference, but the study shows a distinct and widening health advantage over Midwestern calves, too.

Calves involved in the study were from 19 states, fed a common diet at 18 Iowa feedlots through the Tri-County Steer Carcass Futurity (TCSCF). They were sorted to harvest after visually evaluated to have one centimeter of fat cover, Fike reported.

"Southeastern cattle have been discounted on the perception that they weren't as high in quality or growth potential, and had more sickness and mortality than northern buyers would tolerate," Fike said. "TCSCF data showed no basis for those discounts."

The average daily gain was similar for both geographic regions, about 3 pounds (lb.) per head per day. But there were some differences, and they were generally more pronounced than in a 2007 analysis of similar TCSCF data.

The mortality rate was slightly higher in the feedlot for the Midwest calves than the southeastern region. The Midwest had a 1.81% mortality rate versus 1.35% in the Southeast, Fike said. In the 2007 study, those numbers were 1.76% and 1.43%, respectively. The morbidity, or sickness rate, also widened by nearly a point in favor of the healthier Southeastern calves.

Misconceptions on Midwest cattle are also common, said Fike. "Since travel is not as far for producers in the Midwest, some believe they won't need as long a weaning period or as many vaccinations." As for cattle that arrive out of the Southeast, the weaning period certainly varies, but there is always a much longer travel time, Fike added.

Study results show that more Southeast Angus-type calves qualified for the Certified Angus Beef ® brand with 18.4% compared to 16.9% from the Midwest. In addition, cattle from the Southeast had a higher percentage grading USDA Prime.

The main trait to consider between the geographic areas is profitability, Fike said. After considering all related costs as well as feedlot and carcass traits, the Southeastern calves had a higher profit per head of $37.34, compared to $23.79 per head for the Midwestern calves.

In later comments, Fike noted that the profit gap was $2.23-per-head wider in the current study than in the 2007 analysis. He said the 2002-2009 data showed the Southeastern calves were slightly older than their Midwestern contemporaries and required 7.2 fewer days on feed. The abstract for the study is available at http://www.cabpartners.com/news/research.

http://www.angus.org/Pub/Newsroom/Relea ... heast.aspx
 
Look at where the corn belt is and figure accordingly. The further you are away from it, the more you pay for corn or the more of a hit you take at the sale barn. It doesn't take extensive studies to figure that out.
 
Weather is playing the biggest part in the slaughter cow prices. Bad weather means no cows moving to market. Give it a week of good weather and watch the prices fall.
Keep the snow coming for the midwest, I have some calves that will be ready for market next week.
 
Frankie, even if we do have good calves we can never match the prices you get because of the trucking.
6 cents a lb from my area to the feedlots of Kansas or Nebraska. Really limits the profit.
 
kenny thomas":2ew4ddd1 said:
Frankie, even if we do have good calves we can never match the prices you get because of the trucking.
6 cents a lb from my area to the feedlots of Kansas or Nebraska. Really limits the profit.

Yep, it is all about the transportation cost of calves and grain. Here in north carolina corn farmers recieve a premium over midwest prices because the hog and chicken guys need more corn than our state produces. Locals get the higher price to offset the cost of shipping in midwest corn.
Our calves sell at a discount because they have to be shipped half way around the work as there are no feedlots or big wheat fields here - too much rain and too much mud.
 
Douglas":3tl0uaok said:
kenny thomas":3tl0uaok said:
Frankie, even if we do have good calves we can never match the prices you get because of the trucking.
6 cents a lb from my area to the feedlots of Kansas or Nebraska. Really limits the profit.

Yep, it is all about the transportation cost of calves and grain. Here in north carolina corn farmers recieve a premium over midwest prices because the hog and chicken guys need more corn than our state produces. Locals get the higher price to offset the cost of shipping in midwest corn.
Our calves sell at a discount because they have to be shipped half way around the work as there are no feedlots or big wheat fields here - too much rain and too much mud.

But we need a study to know why better calves are worth less :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
It's like many of you have stated. Anybody who can understand basis trading in the commodity markets understands why cattle that are located outside of the plains and the other major feeding states are sold at discounts.

These people taking these studies would be much better off taking an entry level commodity futures class and applying simple logic. Be a lot cheaper and better use of tax dollars.
 
The link is from www.angus.org Hopefully we don't have too many tax dollars in them but nothing would surprise me. Surely they have a pac. You'd think they'd know where the corn belt is but....
 
backhoeboogie":3v6t8smv said:
Douglas":3v6t8smv said:
kenny thomas":3v6t8smv said:
Frankie, even if we do have good calves we can never match the prices you get because of the trucking.
6 cents a lb from my area to the feedlots of Kansas or Nebraska. Really limits the profit.

Yep, it is all about the transportation cost of calves and grain. Here in north carolina corn farmers recieve a premium over midwest prices because the hog and chicken guys need more corn than our state produces. Locals get the higher price to offset the cost of shipping in midwest corn.
Our calves sell at a discount because they have to be shipped half way around the work as there are no feedlots or big wheat fields here - too much rain and too much mud.

But we need a study to know why better calves are worth less :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol2: :lol2: You cracking me up here backhoe.
 
But we need a study to know why better calves are worth less :lol: :lol: :lol:[/quote]
:lol2: :lol2:

You cracking me up here backhoe.[/quote]

If you really want to get to the bottom of it, a congressional committee is the way to go! ;-)
 
I am looking for a job for my retirement years, I am in the southeast, have the cattle, get less for them, now all I need is the funding for the study. A cool million should do. :D
 

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