Jeanne - Simme Valley
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These are all out of 2 and 3-year old dams. We keep them seperated from the mature cow group.
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trevorgreycattleco":2nqojqzm said:Wow I always assumed simmies were crossed on angus to make them black. Thanks for the history. Isn't that the way it always is. You want a heifer get a bull, want a bull get a heifer! Have you ever used any black angus bulls on your cows? if so which ones and how did they do? jw
tncattle467":35yzr8sj said:Jeanne - Simme Valley":35yzr8sj said:Fullblood Simmental or Fullblood Fleckvieh must have 5 generations of "fullblood" on both sides. The American Simmental (Purebred) has been bred up like Baldie Maker said. A 7/8 is now considered Purebred. We had black Simmentals clear back in 1970. We used Fullblood semen (Galant & Signal) and bred to the commercial cattle we had - blacks, BWF, Hereford, Shorthorn, etc. So we ALWAYS have had black Simmies. Just never bred to a black bull until about 10 years ago --- no - must be more like 15 years ago - wow - time flies. Anyway, they were black, but not necessarily GOOD bulls. Now, all of a sudden, we have almost all black cows. All our reds were the older cows that slowly got culled. So, we are in the process of building up our red population. We've been breeding all our Hetero Blk cows to red bulls or at least another Hetero Blk bull trying to get more reds. We had 18 possible red calves. Got about 12 - wahoo - but -- all, except the last one, were BULLS!!! Got 1 red heifer calf. bummer.
Why would you want more reds? They are looked upon with disdain in all areas of the cattle market. That is why I use only homozygous black bulls. If I had any reds I could not sell them cuz noone would buy them I would have to make hamburger or something out of all the reds.
If they weren't crossed with Angus what made them black?
tncattle467":xybdpydz said:Why would you want more reds? They are looked upon with disdain in all areas of the cattle market. That is why I use only homozygous black bulls. If I had any reds I could not sell them cuz noone would buy them I would have to make hamburger or something out of all the reds.