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hows these look to ya..only pics he sent me. red angus. 7 mos old. backgrounded/vacc/tagged/sire on premise but not all dams
400$ea..im taking all 5...
says purebred but not reg...papers mean nothing to me cept maybe its a better sire dam combo ..blah blah...if they wont calf or they die then papers aint worth beans

i hate calfing hiefers tho..only way i can seem to get a decent deal and then i gotta wit on my returns...i guess i got more time than money unfortunately

whattya think...pick em up sat???
 

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Pretty small and when I blow them up they go all grainy
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dieselbeef":k7f4jixq said:
hows these look to ya..only pics he sent me. red angus. 7 mos old. backgrounded/vacc/tagged/sire on premise but not all dams
400$ea..im taking all 5...
says purebred but not reg...papers mean nothing to me cept maybe its a better sire dam combo ..blah blah...if they wont calf or they die then papers aint worth beans

i hate calfing hiefers tho..only way i can seem to get a decent deal and then i gotta wit on my returns...i guess i got more time than money unfortunately

whattya think...pick em up sat???
Before ou breed them have them plevic checked. That should help with some of your distaste for calving heifers.
 

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That first one looks like it ought to be in a cartoon movie or something.

They look expensive to me. Good young bred cows were bringing $650 last week. (I know we are in a drough market so say $800). You are going to have to feed those calves 2 years before you get anything. Pay twice as much for a young bred cow and have a calf on her side in 2-3 months for $500 payday in 6 more.
 

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Diesel,

I try to not run down other's stock, but these look pretty sorry to me. Maybe it's just the pics, I hope. Either way good luck, you definitely got them cheap.
 

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They are a sad looking bunch but i think with some time and feed they might be able to be bred at 2 or 2 1/2. It looks like their condition was caused by environment rather than other factors. Might pay to drench them and what not. If you don't mind a bit of work they'll be ok. They'll be small cows though. I'd really hold off breeding them until they are that age though. If you decide to do it show us in a few months how they go.
 

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They need TLC and a few rounds of worming and rotating to fresh grass when wormed. After that you will not have not have a winner at the county fair.
 

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hillrancher":1pil9pd5 said:
They need TLC and a few rounds of worming and rotating to fresh grass when wormed. After that you will not have not have a winner at the county fair.

Dont be to sure. If he is the only RED calves there he is shoe in for sure. :D
 

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hillrancher":22qfu2lz said:
They need TLC and a few rounds of worming and rotating to fresh grass when wormed. After that you will not have not have a winner at the county fair.

Dont be to sure. If he is the only RED calves there he is shoe in for sure. :D

Was counting on Bill Bob taking a couple of his best animal.
 
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i was hoping they'd look better in person..we all know how pics go....but yeah after i got the pics and looked at em alittle harder they are kinda funny looking..specially that small one in the first pic...i might go look at em anyways tho...im findin it hard to buy any decent animals locally
 

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Do you guys have stock agents over there in america? They're people that buy and sell livestock for people. They also normally have a book with people who want livestock and people who have livestock to sell. And they also know the quality of stock their customers have.
 
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aussie_cowgirl":tfdgdnoj said:
Do you guys have stock agents over there in america? They're people that buy and sell livestock for people. They also normally have a book with people who want livestock and people who have livestock to sell. And they also know the quality of stock their customers have.

i dont know of any..hell when i got to the 3 markts close by here all i see is the same 5-6 buyers...one of them told me once that one of his cust dont care about anything cept less than 300 lbs and black..and he was buying em all for whatever they were goin for he was high bidder.

maybe its me but the markts suck and im having a hard time buying stock otherwise..everyones stuff is gold when they wanna sell it but nobody will ofer ya anything for what youv got for sale
 

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Not a good deal.

Something to consider. Do you have the time and money to invest in them before you get a calf out of them? Look at your time line. If they are 7 months old and providing they grow well enough to be bred at 14 to 16 months old, then add another 9 months gestation, plus 6 months to weaning... you will have invested at least 24 months (2 years) before you start recouping your money.

If you get them, plan on spending some money on feed. They look like they need it.

About a buyer. Ask at your feed store and your Extension agent if they know of anyone who can help you find good stock. You may have to travel to find it, but better quality cattle will pay off in the long run.
 
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chippie":2t9h1q23 said:
Not a good deal.

Something to consider. Do you have the time and money to invest in them before you get a calf out of them? Look at your time line. If they are 7 months old and providing they grow well enough to be bred at 14 to 16 months old, then add another 9 months gestation, plus 6 months to weaning... you will have invested at least 24 months (2 years) before you start recouping your money.

If you get them, plan on spending some money on feed. They look like they need it.

About a buyer. Ask at your feed store and your Extension agent if they know of anyone who can help you find good stock. You may have to travel to find it, but better quality cattle will pay off in the long run.


being as it isnt my primary income i can wait..grass is huge right now and ive got alotta grazing past in top cond luckily.feed is no problem. i have pellets on hand as i sell it to support my feeding of it..almost keeps me even...
its funny how hard a time im having trying to buy some cows...i wouldve thought the marky prices would have more people selling private but i guess they just take the beating in stride..the markts are so poor here that i seel my as beef even thos its waaay more trouble
thanks for the inputs from all of ya
gary
 
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Bartow, FL - Wed, Jul 22, 2009 USDA - FL Dept Ag Market News


Florida Cattle Auctions - Daily - Tue, Jul 21, 2009

Tuesday's receipts at Lakeland (610), Madison (432), Okeechobee (1615), and Webster
(905) totaled 3,562, compared to 4,723 last week, and 3,297 a year ago. According to
the Federal-State Livestock Market News Service, compared to one week ago, slaughter
cows steady mostly steady, bulls unevenly steady, feeder steers unevenly steady to 1.00
higher, heifers steady to 2.00 higher, replacement cows steady to 2.00 higher.

Slaughter cows 14 percent, bulls 1 percent, feeder steers over 600 lbs
4 percent, under 600 lbs 43 percent, feeder heifers over 600 lbs 1
percent, under 600 lbs 35 percent, replacement cows 2 percent.

Slaughter Cows Breakers 75-80
Wt Range Avg Wt Price Range Avg Price
1145-1150 1148 48.00-50.00 49.00
1215-1535 1359 45.00-52.00 49.70

Slaughter Cows Boners 80-85
Wt Range Avg Wt Price Range Avg Price
840-1190 1076 42.00-51.50 46.70
800-1190 1034 35.00-44.00 40.75 Low Dressing
1200-1950 1412 44.50-51.50 47.99
1250-1525 1378 40.00-43.00 41.51 Low Dressing

Slaughter Cows Lean 85-90
Wt Range Avg Wt Price Range Avg Price
720-730 726 35.00-40.00 37.99 Low Dressing
770-845 803 36.00-42.00 40.86
755-830 796 32.00-40.00 35.84 Low Dressing
850-1190 997 35.00-46.00 41.94
850-1155 912 32.00-41.00 37.30 Low Dressing

Slaughter Bulls Y.G. 1
Wt Range Avg Wt Price Range Avg Price
1150-1480 1332 52.00-59.00 55.38
1050-1420 1208 49.00-54.00 51.71 Low Dressing
1655-2120 1830 55.00-59.00 57.57
1645-1680 1663 61.00-62.00 61.51 High Dressing
1620-1625 1623 52.00-53.00 52.50 Low Dressing

Feeder Steers and Bulls Medium and Large 1-2
Wt Range Avg Wt Price Range Avg Price
200-243 228 125.00-145.00 131.73
250-295 269 118.00-140.00 126.89
300-349 317 110.00-124.00 116.40
350-395 362 104.00-118.00 110.44
400-449 416 99.00-107.00 102.48
450-495 475 93.00-103.00 96.56
500-545 530 86.00-98.00 91.97
550-585 568 86.00-98.00 92.48
600-640 626 80.00-94.00 89.03

Feeder Steers and Bulls Small 1-2
Wt Range Avg Wt Price Range Avg Price
200-230 224 90.00-110.00 99.96
275-285 279 90.00-104.00 96.57
315-330 322 86.00-105.00 93.53
355-385 377 84.00-92.00 86.73
405-445 424 80.00-97.00 88.67

Feeder Steers and Bulls Medium and Large 2-3
Wt Range Avg Wt Price Range Avg Price
200-245 222 105.00-130.00 117.84
250-295 272 100.00-130.00 109.99
300-345 325 94.00-116.00 102.85
330-340 333 85.00-88.00 86.98 Brahman X
350-395 370 85.00-108.00 98.47
400-445 424 85.00-101.00 91.52
450-495 478 82.00-96.00 88.95
500-549 524 77.00-93.00 85.92
550-595 574 75.00-91.00 84.69
600-640 622 75.00-88.00 81.85
655-685 670 81.00-85.00 82.96
705-715 710 70.00-85.00 79.86
770-775 773 71.00-72.00 71.50

Feeder Holstein Steers and Bulls Large 3
Wt Range Avg Wt Price Range Avg Price
415-420 418 46.00-48.00 47.01
465-475 470 42.00-48.00 45.03
575-595 585 42.00-45.00 43.47

Feeder Heifers Medium and Large 1-2
Wt Range Avg Wt Price Range Avg Price
200-245 219 100.00-112.50 107.11
250-295 266 98.00-112.50 105.59
300-349 320 92.00-103.00 97.89
350-395 377 85.00-100.00 90.72
400-445 420 85.00-94.00 89.00
450-495 473 84.00-95.00 88.78
500-540 523 82.00-95.00 87.95
550-595 564 80.00-94.00 86.07
608-645 616 80.00-87.00 83.82

Feeder Heifers Small 1-2
Wt Range Avg Wt Price Range Avg Price
205-245 235 80.00-96.00 86.26
270-295 286 79.00-95.00 85.26
300-345 322 75.00-90.00 80.98
350-380 365 78.00-81.00 79.78
405-430 415 72.00-80.00 77.24
455-490 473 71.00-75.00 73.38

Feeder Heifers Medium and Large 2-3
Wt Range Avg Wt Price Range Avg Price
200-240 223 88.00-98.00 93.47
250-295 270 80.00-102.00 90.00
300-348 328 75.00-97.00 85.44
330-335 333 62.50-75.00 68.80 Brahman X
355-395 371 77.00-92.00 83.39
400-445 416 78.00-90.00 83.56
450-490 467 75.00-89.00 81.23
500-545 523 74.00-88.00 80.23
550-595 568 72.00-87.00 77.34
605-635 618 75.00-84.00 78.93
730-745 738 70.00-74.00 71.98

Bred Cows Medium and Large 1-2 Per Head
Wt Range Avg Wt Price Range Avg Price
940-1095 1011 45.00-70.00 53.58

Bred Cows Medium and Large 2-3
Wt Range Avg Wt Price Range Avg Price
1070-1085 1078 45.00-47.00 45.99 4-6 Months Bred
1035-1095 1065 53.00-54.00 53.49 7-9 Months Bred
1120 1120 45.00-50.00 47.50 4-6 Months Bred
1235-1260 1248 45.00-46.00 45.51 4-6 Months Bred

Cow Calf Pairs Medium and Large 1-2 Per Head
Wt Range Avg Wt Price Range Avg Price
925-1030 978 400.00-575.00 482.80
1110-1150 1130 550.00-700.00 623.67
1205-1230 1218 525.00-775.00 648.72

Source: Florida Dept of Ag-USDA Market News Service, Bartow, FL
Terry Harris OIC Phone (229) 226-1641
http://www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/or_140.txt
 

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