True Grit Farms
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There's been a $90.00 spread between 600-700 weight bulls and steers lately. Cattle that have been worked are bringing a premium like they should again.
Ojp6":3qu9b9ny said:Buy all the bulls you can find then and you can be as rich as you want to be. At that spread you could make huge amounts of money. The spread in the KY and TN area is between 10-20 dollars, sometimes less, depending on if you are talking about load of weaned steers or just your average couple head of steers. Sale I was at today 7 weight bulls bring 1.36. 7 weight steers from 1.40-1.45. 6 weight bulls 1.41-1.43, 6 weight steers 1.53-1.58.
Don't see the spread getting much wider than that as long as people are backgrounding cattle. It would take an extreme lack of competition or somebody monopolizing the market completely to ever see a spread like that at any sale I've ever been to. I'd be scared to take any cattle to a sale giving away any class of cattle that cheap.
$90 total sounds about right, or 15¢ a lb. Buy, cut, graze, sell in Aug, make $.True Grit Farms":b35e16xt said:There's been a $90.00 spread between 600-700 weight bulls and steers lately. Cattle that have been worked are bringing a premium like they should again.
Would be interesting to know the percentage that sold at a 90 dollar premium......was it one instance or many more? Market reporting of the top and bottom price doesn't paint a true picture.True Grit Farms":1ukfamxg said:Well to be honest I did use the most extreme price differences at this Wednesday's sale in Ashburn Georgia. Turner county stock yard sponsored our GCA supper last night and was pushing castration for bull calves, and also holding the calves till there around 700+ lbs, if you have the pasture.
talltimber":1y6j2hye said:I've seen some pics of your haygrazer so I know you have some forage there. Are your cows/calves on good enough forage to utilize the implant?
I don't have a comparison, and don't know why you would, unless the obvious, you're selling bulls, as to why you would not cut them all?
Unless you are comparing previous years to a more recent year - and someone a little while back decided for the rest of us that we didn't have that capability. No way to tell year to year whether the calves grew more or they didn't. :roll:
callmefence":2irk630s said:We started cutting and weaning at least 45 days over the past couple of years. I really want to do it this way. I don't mind the extra effort and I like taking a group of calves that are right.
The only thing.. I can see a noticeable difference in the growth of my calves cut vs intact. I'm cutting at about 350 # and implanting with ralgro. By weaning the uncut calves are noticeably heavier and more muscular. Enough to offset the markup for cutting.Idk if it's something in my method or in my cattle. I'm all ears
Money is money. Cutting bulls is the oldest trick in the book, just ask any old hand. Make em a steer and turn them out with the cows. One of the best returns I have seen personally.1982vett":122l29hc said:Would be interesting to know the percentage that sold at a 90 dollar premium......was it one instance or many more? Market reporting of the top and bottom price doesn't paint a true picture.True Grit Farms":122l29hc said:Well to be honest I did use the most extreme price differences at this Wednesday's sale in Ashburn Georgia. Turner county stock yard sponsored our GCA supper last night and was pushing castration for bull calves, and also holding the calves till there around 700+ lbs, if you have the pasture.
Would also like to know if they covered ALL the extras need for one to change their operation from selling 500 lb calves to selling 700 lb calves. Those are two very different operations .... saying "if you have the pasture" doesn't take a lot of risks into account and just puts $$ in the eyes of the inexperienced open minded.
True Grit Farms":2zoa7h4n said:Well to be honest I did use the most extreme price differences at this Wednesday's sale in Ashburn Georgia. Turner county stock yard sponsored our GCA supper last night and was pushing castration for bull calves, and also holding the calves till there around 700+ lbs, if you have the pasture.
True Grit Farms":321xq4zp said:Well to be honest I did use the most extreme price differences at this Wednesday's sale in Ashburn Georgia. Turner county stock yard sponsored our GCA supper last night and was pushing castration for bull calves, and also holding the calves till there around 700+ lbs, if you have the pasture.
callmefence":1ts9afxg said:True Grit Farms":1ts9afxg said:Well to be honest I did use the most extreme price differences at this Wednesday's sale in Ashburn Georgia. Turner county stock yard sponsored our GCA supper last night and was pushing castration for bull calves, and also holding the calves till there around 700+ lbs, if you have the pasture.
I reckon Turner county stockyards auction off cattle and get paid by commission.
They did pay for dinner anyway
True Grit Farms":1hoqhsf9 said:callmefence":1hoqhsf9 said:True Grit Farms":1hoqhsf9 said:Well to be honest I did use the most extreme price differences at this Wednesday's sale in Ashburn Georgia. Turner county stock yard sponsored our GCA supper last night and was pushing castration for bull calves, and also holding the calves till there around 700+ lbs, if you have the pasture.
I reckon Turner county stockyards auction off cattle and get paid by commission.
They did pay for dinner anyway
Have you tried banding or cutting at birth or in the first month? Turner county sponsors a supper a year, been in the same place and owned by the Wiggins family for 57 years. Yes he's in business to make money, but I truly believe he wants us to make as much money as possible also.