haase
Well-known member
Have a question, If you take a scurred cow and breed to a polled bull and have a bull calf, will the bull calf be homo polled? Heard this the other day and was wondering if it was true.
bigbull338":r44cwb9y said:the scurred bull carries both horned an polled genes.most times the polled gene comes out.when the scurred bull is bred to a polled cow.unless the polled cow carries both the polled an horned gene.then the scurred or horned gene could come out in the calf.
i like your thinking.thats like saying a hereford bull on black angus cows all the calves will be black.wrong a hereford bull can have the dom gene that can override the black gene anytime.KNERSIE":aromsljt said:bigbull338":aromsljt said:the scurred bull carries both horned an polled genes.most times the polled gene comes out.when the scurred bull is bred to a polled cow.unless the polled cow carries both the polled an horned gene.then the scurred or horned gene could come out in the calf.
The last research I have read, it was still inconclusive whether homozygous polled cattle can express scurs or not. Haven't seen anything newer stating the contrary.
Scurs is actually seperate set of genes and has very little (almost nothing) to do with either polled or horned genes except that in the case of horns the horns will be present instead of scurs.
The heriditary in scurs is sex linked and the scur gene is dominant in bulls and recessive in heifers.
The scurs can vary from a small almost invisible loose scab to a horn size hornlike growth that can even grow attached to the skull. Talk about an imprecise science! :roll:
haase,
To answer your original question, no the bullcalf will not neccesarily be homo polled, either or both the bull and cow could be heterozygous polled and you can either get a homo polled bull, hetero polled bull or even a horned bullcalf. With every chance of scurs in the case of a polled calf.
bigbull338":2hs2dwf0 said:i like your thinking.thats like saying a hereford bull on black angus cows all the calves will be black.wrong a hereford bull can have the dom gene that can override the black gene anytime.
randiliana":32f8t9xa said:bigbull338":32f8t9xa said:i like your thinking.thats like saying a hereford bull on black angus cows all the calves will be black.wrong a hereford bull can have the dom gene that can override the black gene anytime.
Hate to say this, but there is no dominant red gene. If you end up with a red calf from a Hereford bull and a Black Angus cow, that means that the COW had the RED gene. Not that there is a dominant red gene.
bigbull338":35l9b1v0 said:well im going to strongly dissagree with you 2 on that.an heres why.ive talked to hereford breeders that tween them have well over 100yrs breeding reg herefords.an thats what they say.they say a super dom red gene herefod bull on pure angus cows the bull can an will throw red white face calves from black cows.
bigbull338":19yffsgg said:well im going to strongly dissagree with you 2 on that.an heres why.ive talked to hereford breeders that tween them have well over 100yrs breeding reg herefords.an thats what they say.they say a super dom red gene herefod bull on pure angus cows the bull can an will throw red white face calves from black cows.
bigbull338":1yoydx8l said:well dun looks like you just proved that theres no purebred reg angus.but the truth is we was all taught differant in the cattle business.an nor do we know everything about this businessim no schlor i admitt that.
bigbull338":154lswjp said:well dun looks like you just proved that theres no purebred reg angus.but the truth is we was all taught differant in the cattle business.an nor do we know everything about this businessim no schlor i admitt that.
JMichal":25megldi said:bigbull338":25megldi said:well dun looks like you just proved that theres no purebred reg angus.but the truth is we was all taught differant in the cattle business.an nor do we know everything about this businessim no schlor i admitt that.
I don't agree. Purebred is what the breed registry defines as purebred. Maybe your statement would be correct to say Fullblood instead of purebred. :cboy:
dun":2ixsfdca said:JMichal":2ixsfdca said:bigbull338":2ixsfdca said:well dun looks like you just proved that theres no purebred reg angus.but the truth is we was all taught differant in the cattle business.an nor do we know everything about this businessim no schlor i admitt that.
I don't agree. Purebred is what the breed registry defines as purebred. Maybe your statement would be correct to say Fullblood instead of purebred. :cboy:
Since you can;t breed up black Angus there isn;t any need for the confusing fullblood purebred BS.
Cowdirt":1by8kkyp said:I'll say it this way. A homozygous black cow bred to a red bull will not produce red offspring.
JMichal":3mtldkfz said:Cowdirt":3mtldkfz said:I'll say it this way. A homozygous black cow bred to a red bull will not produce red offspring.
Beins we live in America and my Red Bull does your white cow do we get a blue calf :frowns: :compute: :compute: