Rising beef prices show no indication of reversing

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"I quit buying steaks a while ago when the price went up," said 59-year-old Lubbock resident Len Markham, who works at Texas Tech. She said she limits red meat purchases to hamburger, opting for chicken, pork and fish instead.

"I don't buy (red) meat, period," said fellow Lubbock resident Terry Olson, 67. "Not like I used to, because of the price."

http://www.argusleader.com/story/news/2 ... g/7691339/
 
thats because itll take 20yrs or more to get the cattle #s built back up enough for beef to go back down.personally i eat alot of bergers.an if i want steaks i dont mind buying them.
 
Wholesale beef prices continued to be the primary stumbling block this week. Choice boxed beef cutout value was $6.62/cwt. lower week-to-week, closing at $222.12/cwt. Select was $4.91 lower week-to-week at $212.46.

"Trade chatter indicates higher beef prices are hitting stores and consumers know it," John Otte, Penton market analyst, explained Friday. "Consumer resistance to higher prices could trim retail sales volume, positioning prices for a bit of a break, despite continued strength in beef export volumes and sales."

"Most pressure was seen on heavyweight feeders over 800 lbs. and soft new-crop calves that are progressively making up a larger percentage of receipts," AMS analysts say. "As a whole, offerings are currently less attractive than usual with receipts mostly made up of growing-lot yearlings and fall-born calves, both carrying considerable flesh."

Grass-ready cattle continue to receive the stoutest demand. Futures prices continue to suggest room to grow, too. They closed an average of $1.85 higher week-to-week.

http://beefmagazine.com/cattle-prices/c ... resistance

:2cents: Looks to me pressure is building at the end of the value chain, and will push backwards. I expect that will drive the prices of herd building down, eventually. Hard to say when.
 
TexasBred":2qr88fna said:
Heard one fellow say the other day he didn't anticipate the market changing much for at least 5 years.
thats the normal market changes.but we all know the markets havent been normal since 2000.
 
TexasBred":1tg03bfl said:
Heard one fellow say the other day he didn't anticipate the market changing much for at least 5 years.

unless there is:

a drought, or
a health scare, or
a financial crisis, or
a political crisis, or
a change in meat import rules, or ...

So we all know it is going to change. The question is when ?
 
FWIW at Cattle Raisers Mr. Block of Cattle Fax predicted several more years of good prices. They have a good track record in this arena.
 
tsonda4570":36rb9ibm said:
FWIW at Cattle Raisers Mr. Block of Cattle Fax predicted several more years of good prices.

Good prices are good.
A bigger issue is return on investment.
Saw some charts recently that showed ranching return was about the same as 10 years ago, and it was a very small number.
 
Beef is like any other ag commodity. What goes up can and will come down. When and how much is anyone's guess.

The bottom line is it is always prudent to prepare for bad times during good times. A big part of that preparation is reducing or elimating debt and/or socking cash away for the rainy days that WILL come at some point.

"Cash is King" If you are unencumbered by debt, you are in a much better position if/when land/cattle prices drop to expand your operation.

As a corn/hog farmer on another board always says, Keep your powder dry.
 
ibetyamissedme":1tyu19uh said:
bigbull338":1tyu19uh said:
thats because itll take 20yrs or more to get the cattle #s built back up enough for beef to go back down.personally i eat alot of bergers.an if i want steaks i dont mind buying them.
You are always yappin about head count being down. Do you eat beef by the head or by the pound?
i eat more beef than the ave person.probly 200lbs of hamberger meat a yr.plus other beef in steaks and roasts.most weeks i ave eating 3 bergers a day twice a week.
 
bigbull338":3jvwuaon said:
ibetyamissedme":3jvwuaon said:
bigbull338":3jvwuaon said:
thats because itll take 20yrs or more to get the cattle #s built back up enough for beef to go back down.personally i eat alot of bergers.an if i want steaks i dont mind buying them.
You are always yappin about head count being down. Do you eat beef by the head or by the pound?
i eat more beef than the ave person.probly 200lbs of hamberger meat a yr.plus other beef in steaks and roasts.most weeks i ave eating 3 bergers a day twice a week.
So does your grocery store sell beef by the head or by the pound?
 
I was reading this figured id share

http://www.agweek.com/event/article/id/22659/

US cattle numbers at 63-year low
CHICAGO — Three years after the worst dry spell on record for Texas, fourth-generation rancher Stayton Weldon still doesn't have enough water for his 300 cattle near Cuero, about 89 miles southeast of San Antonio. Dry grass on his 2,600 acres has no nutrition. He has lost 22 cows and two bulls in the past year.
Three years after the worst dry spell on record for Texas, fourth-generation rancher Stayton Weldon still doesn't have enough water for his 300 cattle near Cuero, about 89 miles southeast of San Antonio. Dry grass on his 2,600 acres has no nutrition. He has lost 22 cows and two bulls in the past year.

"We need rain — bad," the 75-year-old Weldon says, looking at animals scraping at patchy grass on land that his family has been on since 1856. "We've got tremendous drought problems. It cuts your herd size down because people have to sell off to provide for the cattle that are left."

The cattle herd in the U.S., the world's largest beef producer, fell to the smallest in 63 years, according to U.S. Department of Agriculture data. More than 80 percent of Texas, the biggest producing state, is still abnormally dry, and ranchers such as Weldon are struggling to recover. Fewer cattle will mean production in the $85 billion beef industry drops to a 20-year low in 2014, USDA says. Retail costs for the meat are at an all-time high, government data show.

Cattle futures rose 4.4 percent this month and touched $1.432 per pound on Jan. 22, the highest since trading began on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange in 1964. The Standard & Poor's GSCI gauge of 24 raw materials dropped 1.3 percent in 2014, and the MSCI All-Country World Index of equities declined 3.9 percent. The Bloomberg Dollar Index, a gauge against 10 major trading partners, climbed 1.2 percent, while the Bloomberg Treasury Bond Index rose 1.6 percent.

U.S. ranchers held 87.99 million head of cattle as of Jan. 1, according to the average estimate of six analysts surveyed by Bloomberg News. That's the fewest for the date since 1951 and would mark the seventh straight year of contraction.

Beef and dairy farmers held 87.7 million head of cattle as this year began, down 1.8 percent from a year earlier, according to USDA. That's the lowest since 1951.

The report also showed the 2013 calf crop was estimated at 33.9 million, down 1 percent from a year earlier and the smallest since 1949.

Extreme weather around the world is wreaking havoc with farmers and threatening global food production.

The period from October 2010 through September 2011 marked the driest 12 months for Texas in records going back to 1895, according to John Nielsen-Gammon, the state's climatologist. The dry conditions destroyed pastures and caused $3.23 billion of losses in livestock. It was followed the next year by a surge in feed-grain prices during the worst Midwest dry spell since the 1930s. California had its driest year ever in 2013, threatening the state's cattle herds and dairy cows.

While slaughter has been the main factor driving herds lower, the rates are now slowing as more ranchers hold back cows to increase breeding. About 31.95 million head of cattle were slaughtered in 2013, down 1.5 percent from 2012, according to a Jan. 23 USDA report. The number of cows slaughtered fell 3 percent from a year earlier, USDA data show.

Beef supplies will keep falling because young heifers aren't going to the feedlot, says John Nalivka, president of Sterling Marketing Inc., an agricultural economic research and advisory company in Vale, Ore.

"It's a real ironic situation that most people wouldn't think about," Nalivka says. "At the initiation of herd expansion, you actually reduce your production. That means we're going to have tight beef supplies for the next two to three years."

Expanding the U.S. herd is a slow process. Calves have nine-month gestation periods and take 20 to 22 months to reach slaughter weight, according to Ron Plain of the University of Missouri in Columbia. Animals typically are fattened on corn until they weigh about 1,200 pounds, when they are sold to meatpackers. The calf crop probably declined to 33.57 million head, down 2.1 percent from a year earlier, the Bloomberg survey showed.

U.S. commercial beef output will drop 5.4 percent this year to 24.32 billion pounds (11.03 million metric tons), the lowest since 1994, the government forecast Jan. 10. That would mark the fourth straight year of declining production.

Americans might pay as much as 4 percent more for beef this year, after prices rose 2 percent in 2013, according to USDA. That compares with as much as a 3.5 percent gain projected for overall food costs. The price of all-fresh retail beef climbed to a record $5.036 per pound in December, USDA data show. While global food costs tracked by the United Nations declined 3.4 percent in 2013, meat prices increased 0.5 percent.

While corn, the main ingredient in livestock feed, dropped 49 percent since reaching a record $8.49 a bushel in August 2012, prices are still 25 percent higher than the average of the past two decades.

Texas Roadhouse Inc., the Louisville, Ky.-based steakhouse chain, raised prices in the past two years, trying to fight off beef inflation, Scott Colosi, the company's president says.

For beef, "the supply side remains tight," says Jim Robb, the director of the Livestock Marketing Information Center in Denver, which is funded by the industry, universities and government. "On a year-over-year basis, we'll set record wholesale-beef prices, record retail-beef prices and record-high cattle prices."
 
HDRider":147i36vd said:
"I quit buying steaks a while ago when the price went up," She said she limits red meat purchases to hamburger, opting for chicken, pork and fish instead.

I heard that we are heading for a bacon shortage, so I recently started the wife on pork production. :nod:
 
When you look at cattle numbers in south america, you'll see they have 3 times more cattle than the US at 90 million animals or so (US was listed as 33 million). I got this from
http://www.indexmundi.com/agriculture/?commodity=cattle

I think there's going to be pressure to open up borders before US cattle number really recover. I think old folks are getting out while the getting's good and selling off their herds.. they may hold on to land for a while yet before selling it, so it's not going to go right back into production either.

JohnSD, I quite agree with you.. Now's the time I'd work on paying down debt, not accumulating more... Everyone is out for a piece of this pie, and equipment dealers are certainly no exception. Don't forget that we haven't really recovered from 2008 yet, and I think that there'll be some fallout from injecting so much money into the economy.. What it will be I'm not sure, but something is going to happen with the trillions injected.. hyper inflation perhaps?

StockerSteve. You're quite right, Ranching is a pizz-poor ROI. Around here, only the 1000+ head operations seem to actually manage to get ahead, the rest of us manage to live... Us small guys manage to buy a good old tractor or baler to keep us going, the mid sized guys manage to buy a new one, but no one seems to really be able get somewhere financially. I know that you can't make a penny ranching around here with the land prices if you have debt.
Something is going to come along to soften the cattle prices... I certainly can't exclude a health scare, I just think someone will be happy to make money from importing more beef, and that will mean the rules will change.
 

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