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From working in a bank a few years ago and watching a few tight azz neighbors I don't know if it is best to blow it or hoard it as both can be a sickness. One example I remember well from my banking experience was this one guy would set in the bank office all day to try and get a small fraction of a percent more out of his money. (this was when banks paid a decent returns) After he died the kids in a short time had blown the money and bankrupted everything dad had.
I'm in a quandary about that myself. Do I leave the farm to my city step kids or sell it when I'm 70 and go sip umbrella drinks in the Caribbean the rest of my life. Selling it should be a no-brainer but then I won't have any cows!
 
I'm in a quandary about that myself. Do I leave the farm to my city step kids or sell it when I'm 70 and go sip umbrella drinks in the Caribbean the rest of my life. Selling it should be a no-brainer but then I won't have any cows!
Leaving it to city folk does no one a favor except for the realtor.
Could put it in a trust to mess with people, or find a local renter to mentor and help.
 
I'm in a quandary about that myself. Do I leave the farm to my city step kids or sell it when I'm 70 and go sip umbrella drinks in the Caribbean the rest of my life. Selling it should be a no-brainer but then I won't have any cows!
Sell it and enjoy life! If you give it to anyone who has no "skin in the game" they'll pizz if off faster then you can imagine (sell it faster then you). They have no appreciation or respect.
 
Sell it and enjoy life! If you give it to anyone who has no "skin in the game" they'll pizz if off faster then you can imagine (sell it faster then you). They have no appreciation or respect.
That's the real problem - I have to figure out how to enjoy life without cows. I see many old cattlemen that refuse to retire. When they're finally forced out they die soon thereafter. You have to have a purpose in life.
 
That's the real problem - I have to figure out how to enjoy life without cows. I see many old cattlemen that refuse to retire. When they're finally forced out they die soon thereafter. You have to have a purpose in life.
Would the old cattlemen have lasted as long w/o cows ?
 
I'm in a quandary about that myself. Do I leave the farm to my city step kids or sell it when I'm 70 and go sip umbrella drinks in the Caribbean the rest of my life. Selling it should be a no-brainer but then I won't have any cows!
There are probably a few young kids around looking for an opportunity to farm - have the desire, but not the money or the plan. Maybe work some kind of deal with someone in that situation. They do most of the work. You mentor and get to be involved mentally and emotionally without the physical demands. Maybe some kind of buyout over time or leasing the cows and property. Might be better to see it being used by someone who respects and enjoys that way of life than having the city guys decide what happens to it.
 
That's the real problem - I have to figure out how to enjoy life without cows. I see many old cattlemen that refuse to retire. When they're finally forced out they die soon thereafter. You have to have a purpose in life.
Can't you just scale down in size? That's what the old timers around here did as they aged. By the time my grandfather was 80, he only had 10 cows, and he was leasing his tobacco instead of raising himself.
 
That's the real problem - I have to figure out how to enjoy life without cows. I see many old cattlemen that refuse to retire. When they're finally forced out they die soon thereafter. You have to have a purpose in life.
Surely you can find another purpose to be using oxygen!! :)
 
That's the real problem - I have to figure out how to enjoy life without cows. I see many old cattlemen that refuse to retire. When they're finally forced out they die soon thereafter. You have to have a purpose in life.
Recliner will kill you.
You can't play golf, hunt or fish everyday it all will get old.
You have to stay busy mentally and physically.
I piddle with something every day. I have come to the conclusion my job is trying to trap hogs.
 
Probably not.
They don't have those any more around here. Just someone to give ya the stinkeye when you walk out, assuming they even look up from the smartphone they are engrossed with..
Well, male prostitute it is then. Society has left me no choice.
 
I'm in a quandary about that myself. Do I leave the farm to my city step kids or sell it when I'm 70 and go sip umbrella drinks in the Caribbean the rest of my life. Selling it should be a no-brainer but then I won't have any cows!
When I retired I sold the place and bought a bigger ranch. The kids can fight over it when I am gone. I don't care what they do with it. But I plan to enjoy every minute here that I can.
 
People over think their investing and they wait too long to start.
It is extremely hard to outperform time.
If you buy the S&P and DJ year in and year out from an early age you will be very pleased.
Most people don't outperform the S&P.
To build retirement savings, Diversified Index Funds make the most sense of all time. Buy an S&P 500 low cost Index Fund and keep buying it through thick and thin, Especially through thin. - Warren Buffett 2017
 
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I was semi retired through my 20's and most of my 30's. I made real good money when I worked. I worked about half the year and played the other half. I was young enough to enjoy a lot of things I couldn't do today.
Most people will call you lazy but agree with you method.

I watched several guys I use to work with run themselves in to the dirt just to die before they could enjoy retirement. Their wife and kids just thought of them as an atm. Many of them didnt even know how to be around their families for extended periods of time.

I'm typing this from the porch of a house on the bay where I've been fishing with my son the past 3 days. One day I will get an itch to take on the world again, probably about the time my son goes to college, but for now, I'm quite content fishing, golfing, hunting and playing with cows with my son.
 
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The one thing that is rarely included in the SS at 62 or 65 discussion is that drawing SS at 62 seriously limits money you can make until you reach full SS age. Make too much they pay less SS or you may have to pay back SS that you were paid. That age is getting older as we move forward. I had to be 66. I retired (quit going to work) at 65 and 7 months. I didn't start SS until 66. I had enough vacation time built up to make up for those 5 months. After 66 I could make all the money I wanted (as an employee) without hurting my SS.
I'll continue to work but my wife will get paid , I'll be an employee. Crap already feels like I am.😂
 
To build retirement savings, Diversified Index Funds make the most sense of all time. Buy an S&P 500 low cost Index Fund and keep buying it through thick and thin, Especially through thin. - Warren Buffett 2017
Warren' investments have not been doing so well in recent years. Did he follow his own advice?
 
Warren' investments have not been doing so well in recent years. Did he follow his own advice?
Warren is a value guy. Value has lagged growth for a while now but that probably won't last forever. Indexing is neither value nor growth. It's based on market cap and unprofitable companies get thrown out of the index after a while. It takes the emotion out of investing.

My portfolio is 1/2 index funds (S&P, small cap, mid cap, international) and the other 1/2 is individual stocks that are mostly value oriented (JNJ, DIS, BMY, UNH ect..)
 
Social Security benefits are projected to have a 24% shortfall in 2034.
Who knows what changes or measures will be taken to remedy the problem.
Historically changes have been slowly phased in and those born in 1964 or before should most likely be the least affected by any reforms.

But, imo any born in 1965-1972 will be the most affected, as they are closer to retirement than those born in 1973-1980 but both groups should at least plan on or budget for a 10-20% decrease in total benefits received. But I think congress will act to keep any decline in benefits to the single digits by increasing payroll taxes.
 
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