Pro: low input; Con: low growthtrin":20vs17ej said:Has anybody used any Semen from pharo cattle company? What was pros and cons?
Very well stated. They are too moderate for the buyers in our area. Many frame 4 and shorter. Calves are docked when sold.Lazy M":24q1ag33 said:Pro: low input; Con: low growthtrin":24q1ag33 said:Has anybody used any Semen from pharo cattle company? What was pros and cons?
Its a wonder he don't hold a seminar with them,telling them how their screwing up...elkwc":3rj2klvl said:Very well stated. They are too moderate for the buyers in our area. Many frame 4 and shorter. Calves are docked when sold.
elkwc":1o0mlqrp said:Very well stated. They are too moderate for the buyers in our area. Many frame 4 and shorter. Calves are docked when sold.Lazy M":1o0mlqrp said:Pro: low input; Con: low growthtrin":1o0mlqrp said:Has anybody used any Semen from pharo cattle company? What was pros and cons?
Hard to get "small" out of cows once you get it in them. Genetic "small" is persistent.WalnutCrest":20locikk said:I've wondered about running a framier, yet calving-ease, bull on Pharo cows ...
Sounds like the potential for a train wreck. Small is small, disperse and start over. It's much easier to bring frame size down in my experience than increase.WalnutCrest":b4u6znr3 said:I've wondered about running a framier, yet calving-ease, bull on Pharo cows ...
Ebenezer":fvvwby8a said:Hard to get "small" out of cows once you get it in them. Genetic "small" is persistent.WalnutCrest":fvvwby8a said:I've wondered about running a framier, yet calving-ease, bull on Pharo cows ...
Use to have a couple of "Pharo Pimps" posting on here from time to time....maybe they'll show up.Muddy":crdovzc1 said:Large framed bull on pharo cows do not always give you large framed calves. I agreed with the others, small framed calves get harshly docked.
elkwc":vzaem1ci said:He is a great marketer and it seems to me he has a knack for finding a new area to market bulls in when one dies out.
gcreekrch":5ta4an7i said:Neighbors here bought three Angus bulls from Pharo a year ago this spring. 900 lb 2 year olds. One with bad feet, one failed the semen test his new owners gave him, twice, and the third one died 3 weeks ago. Kit gave them a voucher for the blank one so they could purchase another. They weren't cheap either.
elkwc":6wc1ylkd said:gcreekrch":6wc1ylkd said:Neighbors here bought three Angus bulls from Pharo a year ago this spring. 900 lb 2 year olds. One with bad feet, one failed the semen test his new owners gave him, twice, and the third one died 3 weeks ago. Kit gave them a voucher for the blank one so they could purchase another. They weren't cheap either.
Have heard and seen similar stories here. Two y/o's under 1000 concern me. I want more growth than that.
I agreegcreekrch":1qwulqxo said:elkwc":1qwulqxo said:gcreekrch":1qwulqxo said:Neighbors here bought three Angus bulls from Pharo a year ago this spring. 900 lb 2 year olds. One with bad feet, one failed the semen test his new owners gave him, twice, and the third one died 3 weeks ago. Kit gave them a voucher for the blank one so they could purchase another. They weren't cheap either.
Have heard and seen similar stories here. Two y/o's under 1000 concern me. I want more growth than that.
The bad footed one definately couldn't be blamed on too much hot feed. ;-)