Caustic Burno":10ytegbv said:TheBullLady":10ytegbv said:Kudos to you for helping the cows out! Unfortunately they can't tell the owner what they need. Some people never cease to amaze me.. I can't understand how they can look at cattle like that every day and think they are "ok".
Now having said that, 85-90% of the people who are buying ranches right and left in central Texas know nothing about cattle or their care. And a lot of them think they are too smart to ask anyone else for help.
This is where I have to agree with Black Power should not be able to purchase cattle with out passing a test. Some people are just to stupid to have stock, if you can't tell thats a poor animal then he is to stupid. Cypress he is lucky I don't live by him as I would of already put the law on him.
Caustic Burno":1l1xaxrb said:cypressfarms":1l1xaxrb said:My wife has a co-worker who was forced to take over about 20 head of cattle because of his father in law's health.
He doesn't really know much of anything about cattle, but was hoping to make it through calving season, and sell off most of them. He and I e-mail back and forth a lot, and I try to help him out as much as I can.
Last week, he had a cow go down. She had a 1 month old calf at her side. I asked him numerous questions (thanks also to advice from msscamp, milkmaid, and crowder!), talked to two of my vets, and yesterday finally made it out to try and help. As soon as I arrived I knew what was wrong. The best of his cows were a BCS of 2.5, and that was his best. Most you could see all of their ribs, backbone, tailbone, and just about every other bone. He managed to have 7 calves safely, and they all looked o.k. Poor cows were giving everything they had to the calves to the point of dying. I gave the cow in question a tube of calcium paste, some electrolytes, and a shot of vitamin B complex. Got her up and she immediately began eating.
I also made him take away his salt blocks and put out loose minerals. He has some pelletized feed (14% protein that costs him only $80/ton), but hasn't been giving enough. His pastures look like a concrete parking lot, and they have been getting last years sqaures bales with salt. It's a wonder more aren't dead. I actually offered to buy all of his cows, and bring them to my place, I felt so sorry for them, but he didn't want to.
He is a very intelligent person, and couldn't find a nicer guy; he's obviously uncomfortable taking care of the cattle. He won't even give injections.
In the next couple of weeks I'm gonna go over and work all of them for him. It takes all kinds guess, but this poor guy is in way over his head. I left somewhat depressed, as no animal should be in that condition. Even though people make fun of the "Master Cattleman" class, he's a prime candidate for it, as he has no basic knowledge of cattle.
Oh well, just thought I'd share a story
Anyone that lets cattle get in that shape should be whipped with a bull whip, then taken to the woods a large pine should be cut down and his gonads stapled to the stump gasoline should be poured around the stump and he should be given a butter knife right before you set the gasoline off.
eric":1ebykqia said:Cypress.....have you turned him on to this site yet? This is by far one the easiest places to learn about cattle, especially for beginners. There prob ain't too many questions and/or situations concerning cows that hasn't been asked and answered in here. Anytime someone asks me where they can learn about cows, I always recommend this forum.
lakading":zt6gde82 said:Caustic Burno":zt6gde82 said:cypressfarms":zt6gde82 said:My wife has a co-worker who was forced to take over about 20 head of cattle because of his father in law's health.
He doesn't really know much of anything about cattle, but was hoping to make it through calving season, and sell off most of them. He and I e-mail back and forth a lot, and I try to help him out as much as I can.
Last week, he had a cow go down. She had a 1 month old calf at her side. I asked him numerous questions (thanks also to advice from msscamp, milkmaid, and crowder!), talked to two of my vets, and yesterday finally made it out to try and help. As soon as I arrived I knew what was wrong. The best of his cows were a BCS of 2.5, and that was his best. Most you could see all of their ribs, backbone, tailbone, and just about every other bone. He managed to have 7 calves safely, and they all looked o.k. Poor cows were giving everything they had to the calves to the point of dying. I gave the cow in question a tube of calcium paste, some electrolytes, and a shot of vitamin B complex. Got her up and she immediately began eating.
I also made him take away his salt blocks and put out loose minerals. He has some pelletized feed (14% protein that costs him only $80/ton), but hasn't been giving enough. His pastures look like a concrete parking lot, and they have been getting last years sqaures bales with salt. It's a wonder more aren't dead. I actually offered to buy all of his cows, and bring them to my place, I felt so sorry for them, but he didn't want to.
He is a very intelligent person, and couldn't find a nicer guy; he's obviously uncomfortable taking care of the cattle. He won't even give injections.
In the next couple of weeks I'm gonna go over and work all of them for him. It takes all kinds guess, but this poor guy is in way over his head. I left somewhat depressed, as no animal should be in that condition. Even though people make fun of the "Master Cattleman" class, he's a prime candidate for it, as he has no basic knowledge of cattle.
Oh well, just thought I'd share a story
Anyone that lets cattle get in that shape should be whipped with a bull whip, then taken to the woods a large pine should be cut down and his gonads stapled to the stump gasoline should be poured around the stump and he should be given a butter knife right before you set the gasoline off.
Caustic. You must be Bi-Polar or something. You can go from having some of the most insightful cattle advice to posting ignorant trash like this.
Caustic Burno":hg2t48st said:lakading":hg2t48st said:Caustic Burno":hg2t48st said:cypressfarms":hg2t48st said:My wife has a co-worker who was forced to take over about 20 head of cattle because of his father in law's health.
He doesn't really know much of anything about cattle, but was hoping to make it through calving season, and sell off most of them. He and I e-mail back and forth a lot, and I try to help him out as much as I can.
Last week, he had a cow go down. She had a 1 month old calf at her side. I asked him numerous questions (thanks also to advice from msscamp, milkmaid, and crowder!), talked to two of my vets, and yesterday finally made it out to try and help. As soon as I arrived I knew what was wrong. The best of his cows were a BCS of 2.5, and that was his best. Most you could see all of their ribs, backbone, tailbone, and just about every other bone. He managed to have 7 calves safely, and they all looked o.k. Poor cows were giving everything they had to the calves to the point of dying. I gave the cow in question a tube of calcium paste, some electrolytes, and a shot of vitamin B complex. Got her up and she immediately began eating.
I also made him take away his salt blocks and put out loose minerals. He has some pelletized feed (14% protein that costs him only $80/ton), but hasn't been giving enough. His pastures look like a concrete parking lot, and they have been getting last years sqaures bales with salt. It's a wonder more aren't dead. I actually offered to buy all of his cows, and bring them to my place, I felt so sorry for them, but he didn't want to.
He is a very intelligent person, and couldn't find a nicer guy; he's obviously uncomfortable taking care of the cattle. He won't even give injections.
In the next couple of weeks I'm gonna go over and work all of them for him. It takes all kinds guess, but this poor guy is in way over his head. I left somewhat depressed, as no animal should be in that condition. Even though people make fun of the "Master Cattleman" class, he's a prime candidate for it, as he has no basic knowledge of cattle.
Oh well, just thought I'd share a story
Anyone that lets cattle get in that shape should be whipped with a bull whip, then taken to the woods a large pine should be cut down and his gonads stapled to the stump gasoline should be poured around the stump and he should be given a butter knife right before you set the gasoline off.
Caustic. You must be Bi-Polar or something. You can go from having some of the most insightful cattle advice to posting ignorant trash like this.
Your to not worth a reply. ESABATM.