What would we do? We would Ride them! DUH.. thats the thing youi guys keep ignoring, they have other uses, they can all be put to work if needed, and become working oxen and bullocks. Im not saying you have to or should stop eating them im saying that im not going to, and that there is an alternative to slaughter. Yes, dairy animals are still beef. And are still used for beef, but thinking back to your statement: 'If people didnt eat beef your steer wouldnt have ever been born' he would be born whether or not you eat beef, for as long as you drink and use milk he wouldve been born. And how would you know, whether steers no hwo time goes by? A rooster knows to crow at the beginning of each day when the sun rises. They ahve some idea, the same way we do by the rising and setting of the sun. And its completely irrelevent whether they know wht the time is anyways. Yes, i do drink milk, milk is not hurting the animal.. in cases where the calf dies, it COULD be helping her and preventing her from mastitis.. blah blah blah. Maybe you guys get to keep your steer for 14-18months, but my most recent steers have only lived to their 1st birthdays, some live longer. Some dont. My last steer, was slaughtered on the date of his actual 1st birthday. What i dont understand is why you cant just accept it, yes some people have found other uses for steers out there. But no you continue to insist that they have no other purpose, maybe its ignorance or just lack of knowledge? Now, Frankie, can i ask a question of you? WHY, do i have to grow up? Simply because you dont agree with me, makes me immature, and in need of growing up? Why should your opinion on steers purposes determine whether or not i have to grow up?!