Muddy
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Yeah but you'll get killed with the steers tho.Stocker Steve":2xfn0etc said:Some demand for bulls to use on large cows and thus reduce replacement frame size.
Yeah but you'll get killed with the steers tho.Stocker Steve":2xfn0etc said:Some demand for bulls to use on large cows and thus reduce replacement frame size.
Muddy":3gbrcqjw said:Have you ever been to the sale barn, Andyva? Just curious.Andyva":3gbrcqjw said:Reason I asked was I looked at a guy's lowliness a while back and the only thing they were lacking was leg, they were scrubbing the sides of the chute, real nice looking cattle. Probably frame 3-4 with body condition scores off the charts. Maybe he didn't have good lowliness, but this fellow in particular generally tries to have the best of what ever it is that is his flavor of the week. Those calves would have brought a premium on the market, might not make the guys at the feedlot real happy, but maybe that would serve them right for picking cattle just because they have a black hide.
Mini cross and small framed calves do not sell very good at sale barns, no matter what color or how good they are. The buyers can spot a 450lbs lowline calf very easily and the dock on them is very bad. I sold a small framed angus calf last fall and I got docked harshly. It got sold for $800.
Few lowlines but I don't think you can mistake them for Angus calves, especially their frame and legs.Andyva":1z1vw0hl said:Muddy":1z1vw0hl said:Have you ever been to the sale barn, Andyva? Just curious.Andyva":1z1vw0hl said:Reason I asked was I looked at a guy's lowliness a while back and the only thing they were lacking was leg, they were scrubbing the sides of the chute, real nice looking cattle. Probably frame 3-4 with body condition scores off the charts. Maybe he didn't have good lowliness, but this fellow in particular generally tries to have the best of what ever it is that is his flavor of the week. Those calves would have brought a premium on the market, might not make the guys at the feedlot real happy, but maybe that would serve them right for picking cattle just because they have a black hide.
Mini cross and small framed calves do not sell very good at sale barns, no matter what color or how good they are. The buyers can spot a 450lbs lowline calf very easily and the dock on them is very bad. I sold a small framed angus calf last fall and I got docked harshly. It got sold for $800.
I've been to plenty of salebarns, some of them hundreds of times, sometimes even three times in the same day, and the lowliness I saw would stand beside the vast majority of regular Angus sired calves and if you didn't have them tagged, you wouldn't know which ones were which, until they got above 450. The cows looked to me just like regular old Angus from back before they crossed them up to play in the frame race. How many lowlines have you actually looked at, not just your crappy runt Angus calves, but real lowlines?
. :?:BK9954":1su4yhlt said:How do you get seed stock?
glacierridge":2u3wx8l5 said:I think it's pretty easy to pick out Lowline from Angus.
The whole amimal has a more "mature" look at a smaller size.
The head tends to be bigger and other markers of maturity would show up on the Lowline if you had a 450-500lb animal of each side by side.
Really? Its not that hard to tell the difference between these two animals at same weight.AllForage":1g6d2hb2 said:glacierridge":1g6d2hb2 said:I think it's pretty easy to pick out Lowline from Angus.
The whole amimal has a more "mature" look at a smaller size.
The head tends to be bigger and other markers of maturity would show up on the Lowline if you had a 450-500lb animal of each side by side.
Uuhhhhh, no. Nice try though
AllForage":9wefqys1 said:glacierridge":9wefqys1 said:I think it's pretty easy to pick out Lowline from Angus.
The whole amimal has a more "mature" look at a smaller size.
The head tends to be bigger and other markers of maturity would show up on the Lowline if you had a 450-500lb animal of each side by side.
Uuhhhhh, no. Nice try though
You left out Alpacas and Chinchillas......Son of Butch":106s9uxg said:Big demand for lowlines, BUT only among the guys who bought emus, jerusalem artichokes, llamas and ostriches.
ALACOWMAN":wlklf98x said:. :?:BK9954":wlklf98x said:How do you get seed stock?
WalnutCrest":2rgel2yb said:ALACOWMAN":2rgel2yb said:. :?:BK9954":2rgel2yb said:How do you get seed stock?
Research, patience and check-writing.
Me? I researched for well over a year, making contacts with people, listening to what they had to say, looking for independent verification of the statements, etc. Then, after making the relationships, let them know what I was looking for and when they were ready to do something, I was their first call. Then, it was time to write the checks. From the start of research to the arrival of my 'seed stock' was about four or five years. I traveled all over North America looking at herds of cattle of various breeds (and cross breds) before finalizing my choices.
Good luck to you.