UG":2c23opep said:3way
Is your cousin Jerry Brink?
UG":2ydmwxzk said:mncowboy,
Though I am not sure about weaning weights, I recently saw a presentation in which data from the Meat Animal Research Center had Charolais with the highest yearling weights. If I remember correctly Angus and Simmental were 2nd, and Gelbvieh was next. Limousin was quite a bit lower in their YWs. Now, that being said, there is a tremendous amount of variability within breeds, and if you prefer Limmys, there are some Limousin bulls that can compete with the other breeds on growth.
Stocker Steve":3jswdesw said:UG":3jswdesw said:mncowboy,
Though I am not sure about weaning weights, I recently saw a presentation in which data from the Meat Animal Research Center had Charolais with the highest yearling weights. If I remember correctly Angus and Simmental were 2nd, and Gelbvieh was next. Limousin was quite a bit lower in their YWs. Now, that being said, there is a tremendous amount of variability within breeds, and if you prefer Limmys, there are some Limousin bulls that can compete with the other breeds on growth.
Good point on the Char growth, but if they are the framy type then Char X calves get a big discount in our market.
Limi are not noted for their milk, so that can reduce weaning weight if you have Limi cows. I used limi bulls.
My Limi bulls far outgrew angus after weaning so I must not have the Research Center genetics.
angie":3h892mr6 said:I bought, and paid a lot of money for, 2 bred Wulf heifers 7 years ago. They were gorgeous and I was thrilled to have them. One came up open, and they BOTH became completely psychotic the instant the calf from the one hit the ground. They would growl and paw if you walked out in the yard never mind the pasture. Once the bull calf weaned, both of them got shot where they stood and butchered. We kept the bull calf. He did not have a temperament problem in the least, and his calves were meat wagons, but I refused to keep a single one of his daughters.
I would second what someone else said, if you are keeping replacements look to the Simm or Gelbvieh. But I sure can't complain about the terminal calves off the limi bull.
I now open the floor to the lecture on there being nuts in every breed and how much the limi association has done to improve temperament.
Oh for crying in the night. :roll:Red Bull Breeder":11ms3px4 said:Yep CP there is nuts in all breeds. Some folks just need milk cow tame.
Limomike":4wdnjyno said:I have read that growth is 80% genetics. It's not totally up to the milking ability.
angie":2ywt3a6p said:I bought, and paid a lot of money for, 2 bred Wulf heifers 7 years ago. They were gorgeous and I was thrilled to have them. One came up open, and they BOTH became completely psychotic the instant the calf from the one hit the ground. They would growl and paw if you walked out in the yard never mind the pasture. Once the bull calf weaned, both of them got shot where they stood and butchered. We kept the bull calf. He did not have a temperament problem in the least, and his calves were meat wagons, but I refused to keep a single one of his daughters.
I would second what someone else said, if you are keeping replacements look to the Simm or Gelbvieh. But I sure can't complain about the terminal calves off the limi bull.
I now open the floor to the lecture on there being nuts in every breed and how much the limi association has done to improve temperament.
angie":3b8w6ei8 said:I bought, and paid a lot of money for, 2 bred Wulf heifers 7 years ago. They were gorgeous and I was thrilled to have them. One came up open, and they BOTH became completely psychotic the instant the calf from the one hit the ground. They would growl and paw if you walked out in the yard never mind the pasture. Once the bull calf weaned, both of them got shot where they stood and butchered. We kept the bull calf. He did not have a temperament problem in the least, and his calves were meat wagons, but I refused to keep a single one of his daughters.
I would second what someone else said, if you are keeping replacements look to the Simm or Gelbvieh. But I sure can't complain about the terminal calves off the limi bull.
I now open the floor to the lecture on there being nuts in every breed and how much the limi association has done to improve temperament.
Red Bull Breeder":2vl0ybba said:Well if they were that bad, why did you buy them??
I'm not sure if this is a serious question or not, but I will restate what I have already said:
1. They were built like box cars, and I wanted calves for freezer beef.
2. They were bred when I got them, did not have a calf at side.
3. I was in the pasture with them everyday, they were hand fed daily prior to calving.
4. The day the one calved, it was like a light was switched on both of them.
I think Jim Wulf would have made things right.
An offer was made to replace the 2, which is fair enough, but I would have not taken another one on a dare ~ not then and not now.