since you mentioned that, what breed do most use too bulk em up and keep the color and not be too obviousRustler9":2d7cyw9f said:Probably not the same thing you would expect in yours. He should throw alot of color and horn. Those are some of the things that we breed for in this breed. I will get another shot so that you can see his body better, he's actually not a badly built bull. But, he is pure Longhorn, not bred up with other blood as some are.
Rustler9":2x9jkyt2 said:Probably not the same thing you would expect in yours. He should throw alot of color and horn. Those are some of the things that we breed for in this breed. I will get another shot so that you can see his body better, he's actually not a badly built bull. But, he is pure Longhorn, not bred up with other blood as some are.
Rustler9":jn84ohdk said:Well, I see some show cattle that have some Simm or Limi thrown in. I actually know of some that have done that.
This gives them big rumps but takes the horns down in size. I have nothing against cross breeding but call it a cross if you do it. On the other hand, some cheaters have sneaked Afrikander and watusi in to get bigger horns. That has an impact way on down the line, to me it's ruining the breed.
talldog":3fnw8yuy said:People like Roger is what every Rancher should strive for--- The Breed !!
I disagree very strongly.
People that actively propagate the genetics of animals that are structurally INCORRECT, and try to sound the alarm against other breeders who are succesful by calling them liars/cheaters/crossbreeders with ZERO proof, I say not only is that bad for the Texas Longhorn breed, it is bad for ANY breed.
You certainly seem to take this personally. I don't really know why you get so defensive about this. I certainly did not imply anything about your cattle so I guess I'm a little confused as to why you would take this to heart. You are not the only person with a show string in this breed. With you being so involved in the show circuit I would certainly think that you of all people would know who is doing this. So please don't play that with me. I am also not so stupid to say anyone's name on a public site. I see certain individual's cattle who show all the signs of other blood and you're bound to as well. This is alo evident in some big horn programs as well. I believe that other breeders concentrate on the beef side of the breed as well. Certain families or blood lines of this breed were founded on the cattle's ability to produce beef. These cattle also had respectable horns as well. When an individual concentrates solely on one trait it shows in the product. Cattle that don't have the minimum amount of horn required by the association's breed standards certainly would come into question by anyone who is a breeder and even those who may not know anything about the breed. When they start looking like something else there's usually a reason.
You say that you concentrate on the beef animal as they were meant to be and I certainly think that this is true in your case. There's no argument here-your cattle that I've seen ceratinly have a great conformation. I don't see any of your cattle offered at public sales. Just wondering where you market them? Do you sell breeding stock and show prospects private treaty? I would suppose you do. So what happens to the rest of the cattle? Do you sell them across the scales or have a beef market for them? We all have our purpose for breeding these animals and with your program and the people who you work for it's quite evidnet that it has been a successful one.