Alan":2068wujp said:what is it about 242 you don't like?
Herefords.US":2lo9ub5d said:Alan":2lo9ub5d said:what is it about 242 you don't like?
242 traces back to Titan 23D in six generations on his sire's dam's side.
George
LFF":1fx9dg0c said:He is correct. Some folks think that a weasel was in the hen house. I suppect that many breeds have weasels , but the DNA requirments for AI use should elimate that problem.
SEC":fp73m6de said:THere's a nice looking Simmental bull there!
KNERSIE":6av6xtsm said:I'm curiuos to know what percentage simmental blood was claimed to be in Titan?
"I am very prejudiced in regard to breed purity. I equate breed purity with personal integrity. We must maintain it without any question marks. Registered Hereford cattle are the purest beef breed available today and we need to maintain this purity. Don't use that semen on your registered cows.
KNERSIE":372w7hxo said:How about evaluating Legend phenotypically?
The first thing that springs to mind is that I would like to see the muscling going down lower on the gaskins, the rest looks OK to me from what I can judge from the photo from Reed Enterprizes website. Doc what do you think?
Tried to post the photo, but didn't succeed, can anybody help?
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Herefords.US":9etbfc96 said:KNERSIE":9etbfc96 said:How about evaluating Legend phenotypically?
The first thing that springs to mind is that I would like to see the muscling going down lower on the gaskins, the rest looks OK to me from what I can judge from the photo from Reed Enterprizes website. Doc what do you think?
Tried to post the photo, but didn't succeed, can anybody help?
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Alan":1wu4vdfx said:I would love to hear the thoughts on this bulls phenotype, but remember in the very least, with the 23D influence, this bull is 99.2% Hereford, making offspring from hereford cows 99.6%.
Alan
Badlands":2kfqosjr said:Titan's dam was rumored to have been produced by a Simmental bull making him a rumored 3/4 Hereford.
I think the first imports hit CA in 67, and she was born in 69.
This would have made her concieved in '68. So, either one of the first fullblood imported Simmental sires escaped quaratine and bred her dam, or someone put Simmental semen into her dam.
Then again, maybe he isn't part Simmental at all.
Badlands
Hereford.US - I agree with your suggestion that he be evaluated phenotypically! It seems to me that the majority of the comments in relationship to judging certain animals (Bulls or Cows) on the Forum specifies only one or two particular features - "Don't like his daughters" - or - "Not enough milk" - or - "Too much milk" - or - "Frame too small" and so on. The ONE SINGLE problem that I detect with Evaluations of Bulls is: they are NOT analysed in total. Phenotype is only part of the answer. Genetype is only another part of the answer. They are probably the two most important parts in determining what a bull IS -but when it comes down to putting the knock on a bull because of what his progeny LOOKS like, or how his progeny PERFORMS, most breeders seem to forget that a COW is part of that bull's progeny also - and HER phenotype and Genotype has a great deal to do with how the calve's will look and perform!Herefords.US":f6vmd9ri said:KNERSIE":f6vmd9ri said:How about evaluating Legend phenotypically?
The first thing that springs to mind is that I would like to see the muscling going down lower on the gaskins, the rest looks OK to me from what I can judge from the photo from Reed Enterprizes website. Doc what do you think?
Tried to post the photo, but didn't succeed, can anybody help?
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