Richnm":2d4zktai said:
Theoretically it would be easy to add another breeds influence and evade detection. Breed registered Angus/Bull cow #A to a Simmental, lie about sire or dam and have it registered as an Angus that would be cow/bull #B. Then breed #B back to an Angus. DNA doesn't go back to grandparents etc., not every cow/bulls DNA is on file
We have a 2040 pound registered Angus cow. she is from a Basin blood, and the Queen Mother cow family on down her dam's line. She was bred to McCumber Unmistakable 524. The result.....a bull that is stout, soggy, and closely resembles OCC Unmistakable except this guy is super thick for his age. He doesn't resemble other bulls like Rampage or TenX, but does that make him a fraud? Does it make OCC a fraud, or McCumber, or Basin? We have big dams, most are 1700 pounds plus, but that didn't happen overnight. On our operation, smaller females were culled, and the larger bulls were used for 4 decades on our herd, with little to no replacement heifers ever being purchased. Over time that resulted in bigger and bigger cows.
What you said, in fact, could happen with a registration, and probably has, but just because a bull is big or his hair is curly, etc, doesn't necessarily mean that he was bred to another breed. I.e. we have a son out of a Crook Mt. Black Cedar 3870 bull and a Joy Erica cow, this son looks like he had a perm, curls everywhere, but I feel highly confident on his pedigree.
Genetic combinations are so numerous that it is very possible to have some outliers that do not look like the "average" Angus bull.
I will say this, however, I think it should be mandatory that every registered animal in the Angus Association should be DNA tested using Angus Source or HD50k going forward, including parentage. Too many people can say "I AI'd those 30 heifers to Hoover Dam, and then market them as such, when in fact maybe 20% or less actually settled, and more like 80% are from the cleanup bull, of inferior quality. If you say "This animal is from XYX sire and dam", then prove it! We have multiple generations on our operation DNA tested, the entire herd in fact, and when we say an animal is from a certain sire and dam, it's a fact, not a hunch. I told somebody the other day, it's like the difference between a real Rolex and a fake one bought out of a briefcase on a street corner. As much as one would like to go on trust these days, you really can't do that anymore, you need actual certification that you have the real item and not a cheap imitation.
