double v":19grvj6z said:Pretty sure gelbvieh's look like gelbvieh's :bday:
Watch it Double V. Someone might think you are being snide!
double v":19grvj6z said:Pretty sure gelbvieh's look like gelbvieh's :bday:
Massey135":34fsdrwl said:It was a legitimate question, o snide one.3waycross":34fsdrwl said:Massey135":34fsdrwl said:Purebred gelbviehs don't resemble their fullblood counter parts either. So I ask you, "what does a ""Gelbvieh"" look like?"
Ah! once again you seek to pick a fight or should I say stick your nose into one! Thank You, but I decline to participate. Now you run out and see if any of the other kids want to fight with you!
hypo-chrisy":2agrgzfe said:3 way, you always hate on shorthorn colors.
I noticed that 3 way does damage to gelbveis, an massey135 hurts shorthorns, by there lousy attitudes much like Im no good at promotin herfs
around here that's how the junior high girls talk!you always hate on shorthorn colors.
Re: Whats wrong with Simmental cattle?
by hypo-chrisy » Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:46 pm
Taurus wrote:
The only thing I don't like Simmentals is the newly improved black simmentals. But I don't see any deals with simmentals in here...
`cause their ugly and stupid like angus, the old red ones are ok.
Red Bull Breeder":oqlnfbwy said:Come on 3Way be nice the kids only want you to come out and play. :lol: Lighten up have a little fun, you no its all in fun. :hide:
3waycross":23b2tmwa said:hypo-chrisy":23b2tmwa said:3 way, you always hate on shorthorn colors.
I noticed that 3 way does damage to gelbveis, an massey135 hurts shorthorns, by there lousy attitudes much like Im no good at promotin herfs
have you ever sat at the sale barn and watched what happens when ANYTHING WITH COLOR comes through. The market hates color not me.
As far as what I do for Gelbvieh. You are entitled to your opinion. Too bad it's not well thought out and informed! I have to ask though do adults in your area actually use phrases likearound here that's how the junior high girls talk!you always hate on shorthorn colors.
BTW if this is an example of how you talk about other folks cattle then I think you should probably not critisize me....and I quote
Re: Whats wrong with Simmental cattle?
by hypo-chrisy » Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:46 pm
Taurus wrote:
The only thing I don't like Simmentals is the newly improved black simmentals. But I don't see any deals with simmentals in here...
`cause their ugly and stupid like angus, the old red ones are ok.
Red Bull Breeder":2iurvpup said:Come on 3Way be nice the kids only want you to come out and play. :lol: Lighten up have a little fun, you no its all in fun. :hide:
Gelbvieh are a composite of German Yellow, Simmental and Braunvieh. The Braunvieh gene pool is much larger than Gelbvieh. You wont find Gelbvieh in 60 countries around the world, Braunvieh you do.We've used genetics of several breeds, including Braunvieh and Gelbvieh, so my comments are based primarily on our experiences with these breeds. Braunvieh and Gelbvieh seem to offer many of the same benefits to commercial producers; good milk, good fertility, and better Yield Grades in general than Angus, so both breeds compliment Angus very well in a cross breeding program.
In general, Braunvieh are better in quality grades than Gelbvieh, but also tend to have higher birth weights, and possibly a bit more mature size, Gelbvieh are likely better in direct calving ease and fertility, and there tend to be more black and homozygous polled genetics than in the Braunvieh breed. I'm actually surprised that not more Braunvieh breeders have bred for black and polled cattle, considering that these are two traits that tend to be high on the criteria list of many commercial bull buyers.
brierpatch, I don't know of any color patterns in cattle that are influenced more by one parent than the other, so I doubt that Braunvieh sired calves follow the color of their sires. Just my thoughts.
Thank you for dredging up this old thread Andy R. Lots of good former members on there.Gelbvieh are a composite of German Yellow, Simmental and Braunvieh. The Braunvieh gene pool is much larger than Gelbvieh. You wont find Gelbvieh in 60 countries around the world, Braunvieh you do.
Branivieh cross Gelbvieh would depend. Red might turn out great. Black might have odd curly haired crittersI'll start by saying I like both breeds, but I do have braunvieh. My question is, why would you choose one over the other? I have some braunvieh cows, and use a braunvieh bull on them. He is also used to breed some other cows, charolais and simbra. My primary focus was on replacements. From a heifer stand point, I've not been disappointed. They are probably the best we've ever raised. I like the look of braunvieh cattle, and their disposition. They milk well, and seem to be pretty easy keepers. A year and half ago I bought my first braunvieh, so I'm not promoting or selling braunvieh animals at this time. I would not rule out using gelbvieh myself, but curious why others would use one over the other.