Bern Baby Bern

[Caustic Burno]

If Bernie wins will we end up joining with the Canadian socialists?

Last time a military country got taken over by the socialist propaganda only cost roughly 70 million lives. Half a million of those were US troops to defeat socialist government.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/billflax/2011/09/01/obama-hitler-and-exploding-the-biggest-lie-in-history/amp/

An Americans are lining up embracing the rhetoric versus studying their history.

 

[sstterry]

After 1/20/2021 we will be saying President Bloomberg

That racist?

And the President is not????????

 

[sstterry]

Let me say this on the front end, I am not a Sanders supporter and have no idea how he plans on paying for all of his "great plans". Remember they still have to pass Congress too.

But, to talk about how much it would cost, while still supporting this Administration is disingenuous. The Federal deficit has ballooned under Trump and the national debt will have grown more than $9 trillion dollars. He promised he would eliminate the national debt and his newest budget will just keep it growing.

During the 2016 presidential campaign, Republican candidate Donald Trump promised he would eliminate the nation's debt in eight years.1
Instead, his budgets would add $9.1 trillion during that time. It would increase the U.S. debt to $29 trillion according to Trump's budget estimates

https://www.thebalance.com/trump-plans-to-reduce-national-debt-4114401

This is not the Republican party of conservative values. You may be a Trump supporter and you have that right, but at least be honest about the numbers.

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

After 1/20/2021 we will be saying President Bloomberg

That racist?

And the President is not????????

Not in the least. Stop watching MSNBC and you'll see what's really going on in the world.

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

Let me say this on the front end, I am not a Sanders supporter and have no idea how he plans on paying for all of his "great plans". Remember they still have to pass Congress too.

But, to talk about how much it would cost, while still supporting this Administration is disingenuous. The Federal deficit has ballooned under Trump and the national debt will have grown more than $9 trillion dollars. He promised he would eliminate the national debt and his newest budget will just keep it growing.

During the 2016 presidential campaign, Republican candidate Donald Trump promised he would eliminate the nation's debt in eight years.1
Instead, his budgets would add $9.1 trillion during that time. It would increase the U.S. debt to $29 trillion according to Trump's budget estimates

https://www.thebalance.com/trump-plans-to-reduce-national-debt-4114401

This is not the Republican party of conservative values. You may be a Trump supporter and you have that right, but at least be honest about the numbers.

Yup, almost as big a spender as the last guy to sit in the Oval Office yet you supported that one.

Trump 2020 and it won't even be close!

 

[SmokinM]

Find me one statement of Trumps that is racist. There are plenty of reasons not to like him but racism is not one of them. With all the handout programs generated by past Presidents eliminating the debt at this point is a pipe dream. They have been buying votes with your money for a long time and now we are running out of people to pay for them.

 

[sstterry]

That racist?

And the President is not????????

Not in the least. Stop watching MSNBC and you'll see what's really going on in the world.

I do not watch MSNBC because I consider it the equivalent of Fox News on the other end of the spectrum. I will stand by what I said. Remember "There were good people on both sides"? I will admit I do not like Trump because he is a liar and a charlatan. But he is also a racist.

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

Must really gall you to see how successful he's been so far and continues to be.

MAGA

 

[ChrisB]

Can't believe I would stick up for Bloomberg, but if Trump is not racist, neither is Bloomberg. I don't think anyone can come out and call someone racist without knowing their heart. You can think what they do is racist, but that doesn't mean what they do is because they are racist. Bloomberg was being honest about crime. Truth sometimes hurts.

 

[HDRider]

After 1/20/2021 we will be saying President Bloomberg

Seriously Hurley, did you hear what he said about "stop and frisk"?

How was he wrong?

 

[SmokinM]

I agree ChrisB I cant stand the guy but what he proposed was not racist and in fact the only gun control measure that actually would affect crime rates. Unfortunately it's not PC so the rest of us will pay for it and crime will continue.

 

[Stocker Steve]

Sounds like Bernie is promising even more free stuff than Trump, and college kids are eating it up.

One wild outcome could be US interest rates going negative too, and folks paying the for the privilege of owning US government bonds. :???:

 

[Bestoutwest]

I don't care for the way Bernie presents his message, but I do think that he makes a lot of good points about our current economic state. The free market only works when rules are enforced to keep a level playing field.

The one thing he really promotes that I appreciate is for large corporations paying their fare share.

This is absurd. And if Amazon had to pay higher taxes we all know they'd say that "they'd be forced to cut jobs." That's phooey. It's a threat that they use to keep paying lower rates. It's the same thing NFL teams say when asked to pay for their stadiums, that if they have to pay they'll leave.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/amazon-taxes-1-2-percent-13-billion-2019/

However, that being said, I don't stand for universal daycare, universal healthcare, nor do I agree with college debt forgiveness. You sign up for the debt, you pay. I'm kind of thinking about trying to get my truck for free if he wins. I need my truck for work. They make enough money. It's fair. This could become a real slippery slope.

And don't get me started on the $15/hr minimum wage NOT creating inflation.

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

After 1/20/2021 we will be saying President Bloomberg

Seriously Hurley, did you hear what he said about "stop and frisk"?

How was he wrong?

As a Law and Order Republican conservative, nothing.

As a Woke Democrat, if I have explain it to you then well....

 

[Caustic Burno]

I agree ChrisB I cant stand the guy but what he proposed was not racist and in fact the only gun control measure that actually would affect crime rates. Unfortunately it's not PC so the rest of us will pay for it and crime will continue.

Crime will continue as long as society is soft on crime.
Put the prison farm and the chain gang back in effect with a high rider and a black snake whip. It's definitely an attention getter when you drive by. Worked great in Texas until Judge William Wayne Justice a LBJ appointee screwed it up in the 70's.
Worked great with the building tenders and actually turned a profit for the state.

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

With approximately 54% of precincts reporting, President Trump has already received more votes than Presidents Barack Obama (49,080), George W. Bush (52,962) and Ronald Reagan (65,033) in their respective re-election New Hampshire Primaries.
9:26 PM · Feb 11, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

Nicely played KT.

 

[Caustic Burno]

I don't care for the way Bernie presents his message, but I do think that he makes a lot of good points about our current economic state. The free market only works when rules are enforced to keep a level playing field.

The one thing he really promotes that I appreciate is for large corporations paying their fare share.

This is absurd. And if Amazon had to pay higher taxes we all know they'd say that "they'd be forced to cut jobs." That's phooey. It's a threat that they use to keep paying lower rates. It's the same thing NFL teams say when asked to pay for their stadiums, that if they have to pay they'll leave.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/amazon-taxes-1-2-percent-13-billion-2019/

However, that being said, I don't stand for universal daycare, universal healthcare, nor do I agree with college debt forgiveness. You sign up for the debt, you pay. I'm kind of thinking about trying to get my truck for free if he wins. I need my truck for work. They make enough money. It's fair. This could become a real slippery slope.

And don't get me started on the $15/hr minimum wage NOT creating inflation.

Corporations don't pay taxes they collect them from you and me.
For some reason no matter how many times it's explained it can't be understood.
You raise the tax 10% on Walmart everything in the store went up 10% out of our pocket. Those cost are passed to the American consumer no matter the manufacturer or retailer until they can no longer compete. Then they outsource overseas closing American manufacturing.
The only true fair way is a national sales tax. Tax the dollar when it's spent.

 

[jschoolcraft86]

Crime will continue as long as society is soft on crime.
Put the prison farm and the chain gang back in effect with a high rider and a black snake whip. It's definitely an attention getter when you drive by. Worked great in Texas until Judge William Wayne Justice a LBJ appointee screwed it up in the 70's.
Worked great with the building tenders and actually turned a profit for the state.

That was back when TDCJ was entirely self sufficient also. Pretty remarkable. I believe they still make their own cardboard boxes...or at least stamp Polunsky Unit on them.

Having made some mistakes and spent some time in the care of our great State I am split on the whole building tenders thing (although that was long before I was there). The building tenders system was super corrupt, but if you don't break the law you don't have to deal with it. I can go either way on that one....

I do tip my hat to TDCJ for standing firm on not paying for things like air conditioning. The easier and softer the experience the less likely it is to modify behavior.

 

[jschoolcraft86]

Remember "There were good people on both sides"?

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history

Specifically regarding the "good people on both sides" comment. It has always been my interpretation that he was referring to people who didn't want to see the statues come down as those "good people", and he definitely condemned neo-nazis at the same time. I believe the media twisted that into him saying being some very fine white supremacists. I don't think wanting to preserve our history is equatable to supporting white supremacy.

 

[Buck Randall]

Seriously Hurley, did you hear what he said about "stop and frisk"?

How was he wrong?

As a Law and Order Republican conservative, nothing.

As a Woke Democrat, if I have explain it to you then well....

Surely you believe in the constitution. Are you familiar with the fourth amendment?