Whats the health system like in your country?
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Paul54
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I agree with CB and Jo, something needs to be done about health care. :shock:
Jogeephus
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Caustic Burno":23aai1ux said:
Two of my friends had insulin pumps which were faulty. Because of insurance regulations they could not get replacements which I understand are very expensive. The company that made it would not make it right either. Both went round and round with them trying to get some help in getting a replacement. This is just one example of how wrong our profit based insurance system is.
Oldtimer
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I live about 50-60 miles from the Canadian border-- and anymore anyone that needs the lasar corrective surgery on their eyes goes to Regina...
They have to pay for it-- but it is so much cheaper than any of the US clinics....Not sure if they take US insurance or not-- but I know many of the US insurances won't cover the corrective surgery anyway-- and its getting so there are few folks that have vision coverage insurance with the raising insurance rates.....
I think the last one I talked to said it was $700 an eye (two separate procedures)-- but he now doesn't need the glasses he's worn all his life....
They have to pay for it-- but it is so much cheaper than any of the US clinics....Not sure if they take US insurance or not-- but I know many of the US insurances won't cover the corrective surgery anyway-- and its getting so there are few folks that have vision coverage insurance with the raising insurance rates.....
I think the last one I talked to said it was $700 an eye (two separate procedures)-- but he now doesn't need the glasses he's worn all his life....
hurleyjd
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Caustic Burno":3vkd2vmf said:
You need to be on a straight squirrel meat diet. :lol: :lol:
Oldtimer
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Hey Caustic-- next time the Doc's give you a bad time- take them these two new studies...
What a new healthy lifestyle you could have-- Elderberry and Chokecherry Wine and unlimited Sex for exercise..... ;-) :lol:
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Red, blue, purple produce slows cancer
BOSTON, Aug. 20 (UPI) -- The compounds that give color to most red, purple and blue produce -- anthocyanins -- may slow the growth of colon cancer cells, a U.S. study showed.
Lead author Monica Giusti of Ohio State University tested the anti-cancer effects of anthocyanin-rich extracts from a variety of fruits and vegetables including grapes, radishes, purple corn, chokeberries, bilberries, purple carrots and elderberries.
The researchers found that the amount of anthocyanin extract needed to reduce cancer cell growth by 50 percent varied among the plants -- extract derived from purple corn was the most potent, while chokeberry and bilberry extracts were nearly as potent as purple corn.
Radish, the least potent, took nine times as much of the compound to cut cell growth by 50 percent.
"All fruits and vegetables that are rich in anthocyanins have compounds that can slow down the growth of colon cancer cells, whether in experiments in laboratory dishes or inside the body," Giusti said in a statement.
Giusti and colleagues presented the findings at the national meeting of the American Chemical Society in Boston.
Copyright 2007 by United Press International. All Rights
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Need Another Reason to Have Sex? It's Good for Your Heart, Study Shows ,
August 20, 2007
Need another good reason to have sex?
Well, Irish researchers believe they have one: It's good for your heart, according to a report in Psychology Today.
Researchers from the University of Bristol and Queen's University of Belfast studied 2,500 men ages 45 to 59 for 10 years and found that men who have three or more orgasms a week are 50 percent less likely to die from coronary heart disease.
The findings also suggested that sex can be used to help prevent heart attacks and strokes as a means of fulfilling the recommendation for sustained physical activity for at least 20 minutes, three times a week.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293778,00.html
What a new healthy lifestyle you could have-- Elderberry and Chokecherry Wine and unlimited Sex for exercise..... ;-) :lol:
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Red, blue, purple produce slows cancer
BOSTON, Aug. 20 (UPI) -- The compounds that give color to most red, purple and blue produce -- anthocyanins -- may slow the growth of colon cancer cells, a U.S. study showed.
Lead author Monica Giusti of Ohio State University tested the anti-cancer effects of anthocyanin-rich extracts from a variety of fruits and vegetables including grapes, radishes, purple corn, chokeberries, bilberries, purple carrots and elderberries.
The researchers found that the amount of anthocyanin extract needed to reduce cancer cell growth by 50 percent varied among the plants -- extract derived from purple corn was the most potent, while chokeberry and bilberry extracts were nearly as potent as purple corn.
Radish, the least potent, took nine times as much of the compound to cut cell growth by 50 percent.
"All fruits and vegetables that are rich in anthocyanins have compounds that can slow down the growth of colon cancer cells, whether in experiments in laboratory dishes or inside the body," Giusti said in a statement.
Giusti and colleagues presented the findings at the national meeting of the American Chemical Society in Boston.
Copyright 2007 by United Press International. All Rights
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Need Another Reason to Have Sex? It's Good for Your Heart, Study Shows ,
August 20, 2007
Need another good reason to have sex?
Well, Irish researchers believe they have one: It's good for your heart, according to a report in Psychology Today.
Researchers from the University of Bristol and Queen's University of Belfast studied 2,500 men ages 45 to 59 for 10 years and found that men who have three or more orgasms a week are 50 percent less likely to die from coronary heart disease.
The findings also suggested that sex can be used to help prevent heart attacks and strokes as a means of fulfilling the recommendation for sustained physical activity for at least 20 minutes, three times a week.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293778,00.html
backhoeboogie
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Caustic if you decide to run for office and clean out Washington, let me know. I want to vote for you.
Once you get there if you need someone to keep the guns loaded, I'll volunteer for reloading for you too.
Once you get there if you need someone to keep the guns loaded, I'll volunteer for reloading for you too.
Vicky the vet
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My next door neighbour had a heart attack on Saturday. Following Tues (3 days) had angioplasty done, out of the hospital and home by Fri (might have been Thurs, can't remember, happened in June) All of it covered by OHIP, including the helicopter transfer/air ambulance.Why not":amhg7wge said:
The system can and does work...I myself blew out my knee on New Year's eve falling down stairs, was into emerg and out, rads taken etc within 45 min. And quite the lovely pain shot too....!
IMO far and above better than going broke to cover medical care!
Oldtimer
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Vicky the vet":2egh9ezz said:
AMEN-- and thats the problem we're seeing down here more and more often...People having to make a choice on treating a loved one and in doing so losing the ranch or business and everything you have- or let them die....
An aquaintance of mine just got thru with all the bone marrow transfer/chemo/radiation for cancer-- and got over a $ million bill to go with it-- that the insurance company, that had preapproved it, is now trying to back out of and leave the entire cost on his family.....
Caustic Burno
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backhoeboogie":2q4gewvt said:
It would definitely take a couple Model 12's and red wagon full of buckshot. We would need a tar truck as well with a few huindred pounds of feathers for those that didn't need killin just run out of town. I bet you couldn't find one congressman or senator not on the take.
Victoria
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In Alberta we do have to pay insurance premiums regardless of how many times you go to the hospital. It is family rate of $88.00/month or a singles rate of $44.00/month. Lower income people can apply to have the rate waived but your income has to be really low to qualify or on welfare. So after paying your insurance premiums all hospital visits and doctors visits are covered. Dental, eyes, homeopathic and drugs are not covered however and people need to purchase additional insurance or have job provided insurance to cover these areas.
The line-ups for health care are insane. AB is a boom province and it is showing in hospitals that have people waiting in the stories that are told. It's not pretty. BUT a lot of the problem is in mismanagement of the money and the fact that the more problems there are the more patients demand the govt. to put into health care so the guys at the top are actually being paid more to be incompetent. Not a good system. Some of it is just the huge growth but only some.
Our small town hospital is wonderful and in the next town we have a clinic that was opened up by South African doctors and I have NEVER experienced health care like they give. They treat you well and solve your problem. I wish all doctors could be like them.
The line-ups for health care are insane. AB is a boom province and it is showing in hospitals that have people waiting in the stories that are told. It's not pretty. BUT a lot of the problem is in mismanagement of the money and the fact that the more problems there are the more patients demand the govt. to put into health care so the guys at the top are actually being paid more to be incompetent. Not a good system. Some of it is just the huge growth but only some.
Our small town hospital is wonderful and in the next town we have a clinic that was opened up by South African doctors and I have NEVER experienced health care like they give. They treat you well and solve your problem. I wish all doctors could be like them.
VanC
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Brought this thread back up because I thought some of you might find this interesting:
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/Bill ... oh,_canada
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/Bill ... oh,_canada
Posted on a seperate thread, but I was in hospital all day yesterday with what turned out to be diverticulitis. I would say that all the staff were kind and understading of my condition, as I was in great pain. But it is very difficult to get pain relief anymore. I had to be there for two hours before I got any morphine. I didn't want to be knocked out, I just wanted to be comfortable for the first time all night. Finally got relief when I was diagnosed.
I know that there are frequent flyers who go to the doctor to get pills, my sister is one of them, (a nurse, go figure). But I always end up feeling like a criminal for wanting to not hurt. Same thing happened to my son two years ago when he had his leg operation. He was in terrible pain afterward, he'd had a bone graft. But because he was 18, no one wanted to believe him. I, as his mother, could look at him and tell he wasn't well. I had to have a hissy to get him some IV pain relief. They wanted to give him a pill which would a) take 30 minutes to work, and b) make him sick because he had nothing on his stomach.
I guess that's what's annoying to me about health care here.
I know that there are frequent flyers who go to the doctor to get pills, my sister is one of them, (a nurse, go figure). But I always end up feeling like a criminal for wanting to not hurt. Same thing happened to my son two years ago when he had his leg operation. He was in terrible pain afterward, he'd had a bone graft. But because he was 18, no one wanted to believe him. I, as his mother, could look at him and tell he wasn't well. I had to have a hissy to get him some IV pain relief. They wanted to give him a pill which would a) take 30 minutes to work, and b) make him sick because he had nothing on his stomach.
I guess that's what's annoying to me about health care here.
HOSS
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Carlos D.":9oi9ji3n said:
Nothing is "free". You still pay for it somehow. Probably in higher taxes. The problem with this method is that you pay for the health care and health choices of others even if you are healthy and do not need the care. The difference in systems is that you pay all of the time whether you use it or not. I pay only when I use the services. I like that better.
